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Old October 8th 12, 04:48 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
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On Sunday, 7 October 2012 18:43:43 UTC+1, wrote:
"Lawrence13" wrote in message

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On Sunday, 7 October 2012 13:17:30 UTC+1, Freddie wrote:

One of the forecasts is for a location, the other for a wide area.




That would likely explain some of the difference in temperature.




Also, one of the forecasts uses a single word to represent the




weather over a period of time at a location. The other one uses




several sentences to try and communicate the weather over a period of




time.




I note that the rain in the forecast is not due till the end of the




night. So if you have to provide a description of the night's weather




in one word, which word should you use? Wet, to represent a small




interval of time right at the end of the forecast? Or dry, to




represent the other 11 hours of the night?








These are communication challenges that the MetO are very well aware




of, as they have been in this game for a long time. They do give




guidance on interpretation of forecasts too - and the emphasis of




that guidance is (and always has been) to use the human-written text




forecast. Location-based forecasts are there to use in addition, but




the MetO advise that you remain aware of their shortcomings.








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Well I realise that one covered a wider area but it did include London

whereas -was the other the City of London, if so then the City of London

must have it's own micro climate where it only rains in the surrounding

areas.



I'm perfectly happy with a general regional forecast , all this Statement of

Purose tripe has the MetO trying to forecast for individual square meters

and apologising when they can't.

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UKMO have a problem.

Some in UKMO want to automate everything quickly, a lot don't fully

understand meteorology (branding, sales and other staff) but can see a

massive "business" advantage in automated site forecasts, hence they are

seen as the future. But UKMO also have a responsibility for warning the

nation and still a commitment to human based forecasts, the two sometimes

don't mix well together.

Solutions are being looked into.

Another problem is that UKMO no longer has a network of local forecast

offices (weather centres) anymore (cut to save a few pennies in 2005/2006)

and hence no way of editing centrally based forecasts based on local

information. I could go on .......



Will

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"But UKMO also have a responsibility for warning the nation"

Blimey Will that sounds so serious -is it as bad as that?

I mean it's only weather far more people die of stabbings in London in an average week than ever of poor weather forecasts. Seriously are the UKMO staff told that Great Britain Expects and have responsibility for the safety of the whole country. If then the case my God it's getting to the stage where if it snows in a part of the country where there was no snow warning issued and someone dies as a result of the conditions then UKMO would be charged with corporate manslaughter ?