Nick wrote:
Very disappointed tonight to see such a dreary, Atlantic-dominated
outlook after having avoided looking at the models and this group for
a few days in the hope that the snowy spell would materialise. Instead
2012 looks to go out in typically 2012-like style. The 15 to 30 day
forecast seems to offer no hope whatsoever for any sustained dry
weather, never mind cold, so what are people's feelings on this? Are
we locked into a pattern for the winter now, and we're heading for a
mild, wet, zonal winter a la 1997/98, 1994/95 or 1989/90 with little
hope for change until (as often happens) late Jan? Or could things
change back still before that?

Nick
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Frankly I still maintain nobody knows, especially after more than two
weeks. Looks stuck at least until Christmas.
Dave