George Booth wrote:
On 08/02/2013 20:08, John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Dave Cornwell writes:
As you have correctly stated elsewhere Darren - no signs of any
real cold and no true Easterly or N.Easterly driven from
Scandinavia for 17 years now. If you accept people won't have
accurate information from before they were 10 years old that
means nobody under 27 can remember real cold spells. As the
opinion formers and media pundits become younger so the
definition of a bitterly cold spell becomes diluted we will see an
increasing number of these non-cold "cold spells" !

Surely December 2010 counts as a real cold spell, even if it perhaps
wasn't quite as severe in Essex as it was over most of the country.
After all, months (and especially Decembers) with a CET below zero have
always been pretty rare. ISTR that we had NE winds for some of the time,
though at other times they were more northerly.


December 2010 was the coldest since I started recording in this part of
Essex in 1978

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Well I was concentraating on the S.E corner where Darren and I live. It
wasn't exceptionally cold during that spell and there certainly wasn't
any drifting snow and it was relatively short lived here. It was of
course the coldest spell in the last 20 years or so, granted. As I
recollect it was largely LP driven as most recent easterlies have been
and we didn't get a big Scandinavian high with long fetch Easterlies. As
is often the case I could be wrong but Darren rarely is. The problem is
that people who didn't actually live near the East Anglian or Kentish
coast during the sixties, seventies and eighties just don't realise the
frequency and magnitude of the snow showers we used to get and the deep
cold from Continental incursions. People talk about undercutting cold
this weekend but what are the temperatures on the near continent? It was
more akin to what Ken gets now than these puny little marginal LP cold
snaps.
Dave