On Mar 22, 11:35*pm, "Togless" wrote:
"Lawrence13" wrote:

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I'm sitting here typing in SE London with two pullovers
on desptite the CH on amd you just can't stop the bloody
AGW mantra -not even the slightest hesitaition.

Thank god we have AGW ortherwise it would be even colder

Whatever your views on the cause of it, the Arctic is losing a huge
proportion of the ice that it had just 30 years ago, and it's warming three
times faster than the global average. *There must come a point where this
has substantial and noticeable effects on our local climate, surely? *Maybe
the reduced temperature gradient is letting the jet stream drift further
south and keeping the UK on the cold and messy side of it. *What do you
think? *Given our latitude, right where the jet stream usually is, this
could make a big difference to our climate. *Cooler wetter summers, snowier
winters... something like that.

I have seen research (can't remember where) that indicates
that the jet stream would move north, not south, but strengthen
slightly. It seems counter-intuitive that it should strengthen but
this is what the computer runs indicate.

In the Little Ice Age the jet was for the most part further
south than it is today, which accounts for the increased storminess of
some parts of that era.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.