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Old April 20th 13, 11:49 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
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Default [OT] The state we are in

On Saturday, 20 April 2013 10:12:25 UTC+1, Alastair wrote:
There is a video here where a climate scientist gives his views of the state

we are in with regards to global warming.

http://vimeo.com/43012713

Of course, those who should watch it won't :-(



Cheers, Alastair.


Before I start am I allowed to take an anti panic view on this topic without upsetting anyone and being called a right wing fascist? Just want to get that clear.


The other proviso is that obviously I'm not a scientist and I can't even write properly but I think I can separate the politics from the science and here Stefan Rahmstorf seems perfectly rational and as matter of fact.

First thing that struck me was the major reduction in the amount of warming expected from a doubling of Co2 which was theorised to be 4-6 Celsius with that now seen in actual practice has been downgraded to 2-4 c so immediately that theory of settled science didn't last that long.
The other point I note: he talks as if the only driver of climate change is Co2? The rest is what we already know and have been told for the last 30 years. There is no mention let alone explanation given for why the warming has apparently stopped.
It stands to reason that before the additional human release of Co2 into the atmosphere the last hundred years that the climate was swinging about quite happily on its own with help from humans who were releasing Co2 in order to survive. We also know that in the period we are in of ice ages that Co2 has always followed temperature and *not* the other way round.
If we listen to an actual climate scientist like Dick Lindzen then we get an opposing point of view as regards the scale of warming and the doom laden scenarios being associated with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1CR0v7dwXU