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Old April 21st 13, 12:32 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
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Default [OT] The state we are in

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 12:14:58 PM UTC+1, Ian Bingham wrote:
"Alastair McDonald" wrote in message ...



There is a video here where a climate scientist gives his views of the


state we are in with regards to global warming.


http://vimeo.com/43012713


Of course, those who should watch it won't :-(




Cheers, Alastair.




On the other hand, read "Climate: The Counter Consensus" by Prof. Robert

M.Carter, an erudite work which comes to some rather different conclusions.

I believe it is reviewed by readers on Amazon. With the experts so much at

variance I think one has to keep a strictly open mind on this vexed topic.

It doesn't even seem to be decided whether increased CO2 causes global

warming or whether it is the other way round.



Ian Bingham,

Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire.


"Experts are certainly not "at variance" and that's a book written from a particular perspective and certainly not a peer-reviewed study. Your comments are a *very* poor reflection on the consensus.

This paper, Doran and Zimmermann 2009 will help you to see that. It also mentions Oreskes 2004 and the scientific consensus appears to have hardened markedly since then:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...09EO030002/pdf

In addition, a recent, huge, review of scientific literature, by Powell (Dec 2012) showed almost 14,000 papers agreeing with the consensus and only 24 that didn't. Powell concluded this (not peer reviewed, AFAIK, but an enormous sample):

What can we conclude from this study?

1. In the scientific literature, there is virtually no disagreement that humans are causing global warming.

Please counter those studies, if you want to advocate that scientists don't agree on this. You'll struggle. They do. A tiny minority, including Prof Bob Carter, don't.