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Old May 6th 13, 01:03 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
Liam Steele[_2_] Liam Steele[_2_] is offline
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Default Eddies, waves etc: definitions

On 05/05/13 23:50, Len Wood wrote:
On May 5, 8:20 pm, Liam Steele wrote:
Hi all.

I'm reading up on types of atmospheric motion, and when discussing the
meridional transport of various properties the motion is generally split
into three components:

1. Mean meridional circulation
2. Transient eddies
3. Stationary waves

However, depending on what book, article or website I read, I come
across the terms transient eddies, stationary eddies, travelling waves,
stationary waves and non-travelling waves. Is this just a case of
different terminology for the same thing, or are there specific differences?

Are transient eddies and travelling waves the same? Are stationary
eddies, stationary waves and non-travelling waves the same?

Thanks in advance!

--
Liam


Depends a bit on scale.
Transient eddies usually refer to things like mid-latitude
depressions. Sometimes called baroclinic eddies.
These are embedded in larger planetary scale waves which may or may
not be stationary.

Rossby waves (barotropic waves) are planetary scale waves which derive
from the variation of the Coriolis parameter with latitude.
You could average out the transient eddies (noise) over a long enough
period to just leave the Rossby waves.
But the hemispheric flow you see at a given instant depends on
feedback across all scales.

Len
Wembury


Thanks Len, that's a great help.

I'm happy with my understanding of transient eddies, but I'm still not
sure about stationary eddies/stationary waves.

I can see how a Rossby wave which is deflected due to topography or some
other reason can lead to a stationary eddy (blocking high?). But is a
meandering planetary wave the only method of forming a stationary eddy?

--
Liam
Milton Keynes