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Default Climate slowdown means extreme rates of warming 'not as likely'

On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:46:56 PM UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Alastair McDonald wrote:

"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message


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Lawrence13 wrote:


On Monday, 20 May 2013 21:25:28 UTC+1, Alastair wrote:




Ah! at last: even you accept cooling is setting in.




Don't put words in my mouth. There is no global cooling! Temperatures may


have steadied but that could be only a forerunner to a sharp rise.




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I don't take too much notice of all this but I find the semantics


interesting. Rather than rate of change, if the absolute temperature of


one year is less than the previous year then it's cooled slightly and if


the absolute value has risen from the previous year it has warmed. I'm not


say this means anything in the important matter of long term trends but


the wording would be factual I guess?




Yes. The sceptics choose 1998 as the start year and the Hadley record


because no other year since then has exceeded that one in the Hadley record.


The Hadley record ignores the Arctic because it does not have enough data


from there, but the Arctic is where most of the warming is happening.




There is a huge undercover propoaganda machine financed by the US oil and


coal industries mixing facts and smears to discredit the science.




Lawrence's jibe is typical.




Cheers, Alastair.










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You may have missed my point slightly. I think I am saying that if no

year in the Hadley record is warmer than 1998 then in plain English, for

that measurement, it is cooler. This does not mean other areas are

cooling or that GW is reversed but it does mean that!

Dave


2005 and 2010 were warmer.