On Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:50:13 AM UTC+1, yttiw wrote:
On 2013-09-27 16:36:17 +0000, Lawrence13 said:



On Friday, 27 September 2013 17:00:36 UTC+1, Jim Cannon wrote:





So that was it , nothing.



Eloquently put sir.



I notice that the BBC have finally been forced to admit that the

rapidly rising global mean temperature curve has shuddered to a halt

since 1998. Maybe it takes 15 years before Aunty will admit to anything

that is not in the "nightmare scenario" media handbook?



However, I also notice that immediately afterwards they move the

goalposts by trying to show another graph with only 10 year means, and

of course that still gives the impression they want - which is

'global warming is racing out of control towards armageddon'.

Come on witty. Look at the long-term graph of warming. GW will never be linear, there is far too much noise. AR5 certainly doesn't say what the BBC has "admitted to" and if there is a single published paper, listed in AR5, or not, that says what you've just stated about there being no warming for 15 years, I'd love to see it.

There's been a lot of denier comments around over the last few weeks and the denialosphere has gone into overdrive pre-AR5, denying the contents could possibly be true without even reading the assessment report. Apart from comments by idiots like the one who opened this thread, the denialosphere has gone quiet since the publication of AR5. The weight scientific evidence contained therein is so difficult to counter.

If you really believe what you wrote in your last sentence (leave the BBC out of it, no-one cares what hacks and reporters think, it's not important; AR5 and BEST are important), it may be time to read AR5 and then consider changing your mind about AGW.

GW is happening, it's highly likely to continue and the recent warming is highly likely to have been caused by humans.

That's the message from tens of thousands of peer-reviewed papers on the subject (as opposed to a handful that express scepticism and that's what scientists and governments accept. True, isn't it?

PS I wonder if Larry has changed his mind about you being me?

PPS Do read AR5. It's necessary reading for anyone with an interest in the subject. The summary is out and I've read it; the full report will follow soon.