On 24/10/2013 11:22, yttiw wrote:
On 2013-10-24 09:46:08 +0000, Martin Brown said:

On 24/10/2013 10:32, yttiw wrote:
On 2013-10-24 06:51:23 +0000, Robin Nicholson said:

On 23 Oct 2013 19:26:39 GMT, "Norman" wrote:

My sentiments exactly, Graham. I don't know what all the fuss is
about. I don't
see any of the trash. This place is fine for me.

I agree too BUT the one thing I truly miss is useful commentary from
ex Met office chaps who live down here not too far from Dorset.

Naturally i do look around usually with my morning first tea but my
personal interest is aroused when the weather becomes more dynamic.
I do prefer one screen where I can spot anything of interest quickly,
thus matching my work where as an overloaded schoolmaster I have to
spot the good from the bad ( et al) from dawn to dusk, at some speed.

I suspect that what I consider the lower echelon of posters will move
away in time. It is really quite scary how much time they have. IIRC
there was a time some 4-5 years ago when someone fairly regularly
posted pages and pages of almost Biblical text: at the time I asked
the poster if he/she was really typing this up for hour after hour.

R

Hilton

Yes, it does seem a shame that the nastiness and name calling has ruined
this group. It used to be a great source of information.

A well crafted kill file will remove the handful of worst offenders if
you really don't want to see their posts.

Yes, I do make use of killfiles, but that does not seem to stop people
drifting away from a group because most discussions end up in abuse,
name calling, and worse.

uk.rec.d-i-y is considerably more polite despite having the occasional
robust discussion about similarly controversial topics.

Not only that, but Google Groups seems to have muscled in on Usenet and
does seem to attract trolls more than ever, (not to mention the
many-line-feed specialists).

They have been around for ages post Dejanews and their software is now
horribly broken so that it can't find old archive posts reliably and
inserts double CR/LF into existing Usenet posts at every opportunity.
(it isn't the users' fault it is broken Google software)

Google are also a major injector of spam and bulk UCE into Usenet

Maybe it is just a sad reflection on society these days - aided and
abetted by a rather ignorant media, who exaggerate any event to extremes
and encourage people to take more and more polarised positions? There
seems to be no middle ground where even-minded folk can debate a complex
subject.

You only have to look at the wilfully ignorant anti-intellectual troll
chatter in this group. They are into paranoid rightwing conspiracy
theories and irrational antiscience of all kinds including now it would
seem denying Einstein's relativity (one of the best tested of all
scientific theories - only QCD is more completely tested).

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Regards,
Martin Brown