On Saturday, 18 January 2014 12:41:56 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 03:15:31 -0800 (PST)
"Keith (Southend)G" wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk...onment-25743806
Interesting reading and yet another spanner in the works. I know many
put a lot of faith in the solar activity and it'd effects on the
weather, but as a weather forecasting tool I am a bit sceptical.
However, from a climate point of view, given the sun is basically our
engine, this does make me think.
What I do find amuzing is how we can move from one scenario to
another one in a completely different direction, eg, AGW being a
certainty to this suggesting a mini iceage in the century ahead. I
still have that book upstairs "The Weather Machine and the threat of
ice by Nigel Calder" published in 1974 ISBN 0 563 12646 9, I may give
it another read as it may be coming back into fashion like much of my
wardrobe LOL. Who knows it may be worth a fortune on ebay...
Again it appears to me that mother nature finds ways of balancing the
books, maybe she should get a post in the treasurery :-)
Oh I do love this subject 
This was mentioned earlier in "possible Maunder minimum on the cards?"
From what I remember of the broadcast, we may have to wait forty years
to find out. I think some advances in medical science will be needed
for me to last that long.
Is "amuzing" shorthand for "amazingly amusing"? ;-)
I haven't read Calder's book but almost all of the predictions of a
mini ice-age that came out in the late 60s and early 70s were based on
temperature cycles, both local and global. These suggested a cold end
to the 20th century with winter conditions in UK similar to the those
that had occurred a couple of hundred years earlier. Instead of that,
winter temperatures were about 1.5C warmer. I wonder what went wrong?
[That's a rhetorical question, by the way.]
--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.
The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write
with. - MARTY FELDMAN
Well I have read that book, back in the seventies when an ice age returning was
the climate weather scare story for about a period of ten to fifteen years.
Of course there was nothing like the internet then so no blogs , no hyperbole, no spin just scientific journals with the religion of AGW not yet being born.
So in that comparatively sober period the new ice age theories based on post cooling fifties temperatures had some real clout. I clearly remember the Sunday Mirror carrying a full front page story on the Ice Age returning very soon and the Sunday Telegraph supplement also carrying the same Ice Age return type of article.
Now I've seen many a AGW disciple claim that , that was rubbish it never happened , well thankfully those with memories know the truth , I would also postulate that if the internet had been available in that period, then the 'Ice Age ' to return story would have been as big as AGW. However AGW has one far bigger advantage as a scare story; the left wing found it hard to blame the west for causing an ice age, in fact in that scenario the 'big' oil producers would have been hard to hate. No AGW was a wonderful device with which to attack human progress pioneered through the west and therefore AGW is a fantastic opportunity to say how much you hate your mum and dad and the affluent life style they've given you.
By the way nit pickers: Nigel Calder also in the 90's published the 'Manic Sun' which brought Svensmark's theories to the public; hover by then the MSM, IPCC and those of a left persuasion were in full steam ahead AGW mode and nothing was gonna stop them. So Svensmark's theory and Calder's book wasn't exactly in fashion.
Calder does have a blog but
http://calderup.wordpress.com/
But it hasn't been updated for some time which leads me to believe Calder is in poor health as he is getting on a bit now at 82.