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Old February 16th 14, 12:07 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
Lawrence Jenkins Lawrence Jenkins is offline
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On Saturday, 15 February 2014 23:04:03 UTC, Alastair wrote:
Every day we get a post from Lawrence explaining how climate change is a

scam. It seems that his drip drip approach has been fairly successful in

persuading people that there is doubt about whether it is caused by CO2.

That is all the big oil and coal companies need - doubt - to prevent there

being an upswell from the public to persuade the govenrment to act. Here is

a message from Greenpeace for those of you who have not been fooled by

Lawrence, and his sock puppet Dawlish, into believing that AGW is just a

childish argument.



Dear All,



The devastating floods spreading across the country are causing havoc for

everyone caught in their path, and arguments about who's to blame for the

current crisis are dragging on.



Yet very few politicians or journalists are talking about what's really

causing the extremes of weather we've experienced in recent years: climate

change.



What I find particularly absurd is that environment secretary Owen

Paterson - who is a key player in shaping the government's policies on

climate change, including tackling the floods - refuses to accept climate

change is part of the problem. It doesn't make sense.



We can't afford to have a denier like Paterson in a position responsible for

climate change, so tell David Cameron to replace him with an Environment

Secretary who's serious about climate change.



A few days ago, the chief scientist at the Met Office said the evidence

suggests the floods are consistent with climate change predictions. She

knows a thing or two about climate, as do other scientific advisors, yet

Paterson has been ignoring them since he became environment secretary 18

months ago.



The evidence keeps stacking up. He hasn't had a single briefing on climate

change since he took up the job, and we've heard he won't even look at a

document that so much as mentions it.



He's made statements in public about climate change which are factually

incorrect, and also said that "people get very emotional about [climate

change] and I think we should just accept that the climate has been changing

for centuries." If your house or business is currently underwater, you'd be

emotional, and understandably so.



This all explains why climate change spending in Paterson's department has

been cut almost in half since he took charge and staff working on it have

been slashed from 38 to just six.



It's insane. How can Cameron claim his government is serious about climate

change when he has a denier like Paterson is in such a crucial role?



Please sign the petition. Cameron has to get Paterson away from anything to

do with climate change - he's a complete liability who's undermining any

attempts to get a grip on the situation.



In exasperation,



Jamie



PS Very few people are making the link between climate change and the

floods. Carbon Brief analysed newspaper stories on the floods and found that

in over 3000 published since the beginning of December, only 206 mentioned

climate change. If the media aren't talking about it, it's up to us - sign

and share the petition telling David Cameron to get serious about the

impacts of climate change.



Alastair

I'm not saying climate change is a scam, I truly believe that climate is changing as it always has done and I believe that humans have had some influence. I'm not in the pay, as you suggest of big oil and to be honest I'm flattered you think my arguments are that persuasive. But really I'm an idiot but an honest idiot.