On Wednesday, 24 September 2014 21:14:24 UTC+1, Alastair wrote:
"Graham P Davis" wrote in message

news:20140923085248.18f0eb6b@linux-omey...

Although _scientific_ discussion of climate change has long been allowed

for in this group's constitution, I realise that some people are bored

by it and that is why I prefix the title with "[CC]" in the same way

that "[WR]" and "[OBS]" were introduced so that such threads could be

filtered out by uninterested parties.



Any road up, here's the link:



http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/20...nimum-reached/



--

Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.

"Minds are like parachutes. They only function when they're open". -

Lord Dewar (1864-1930)



I am just back from a Royal Society meeting on the Arctic sea ice. There was

one talk on the Antarctic sea ice. The reason given for its expansion was

meteorological, not physical! It appears that sea ice grows, in both the

Antarctic and Arctic during cyclones. With the warmer seas due to AGW, the

winter cyclones in Antarctica are becoming more intense. The air temperature

over the continent has not increased so the very cold katabatic winds from

there are even stronger since they now replace warmer air around the

continent. It is these cyclonic winds which are growing the ice.



It should be possible to confirm this as the Antarctic ice has grown quickly

over the last few days and there should be reports of storms in the regions

where the ice has grown. Does any have know where that info. can be found?



Cheers, Alastair.









The same experts that said the Arctic summer ice would be gone by 2013 and never once in their settled science outlook said the Antarctic sea ice would grow are now telling us that cyclones in the Antarctic make the sea ice grow in the NH it makes the sea ice shrink. Welcome to the bizarre world of academics who by hook or by crook will try and rationalise any intuitive cooling evidence as really an artifact of warming. Oops sorry human caused warming.


Was the talk by someone from UKMO? If it was you should have asked them why they hide away all their AGW based predictions for British weather i.e. More BBQ summers, wetter winters, dryer winters, milder winters, colder winters, dryer summers, wetter summers and it goes on.

I recently searched on UKMO for the glowing congratulations they gave to Al Gore and the IPCC when they collectively won the Nobel Peace prize. Of course that had gone, been archived and I wonder why? Can't be data size, not for the organisation that has spent millions upon millions on IT equipment so a few gigabytes to store all their statements shouldn't be an issue but it seems it is? I can't quite work that out when half of their resources and website space is dedicated to AGW so you'd think the Al Gore statement would be there for all to see?