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Old March 26th 15, 08:56 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
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Default Unusually quiet start to tornado season

On Monday, 23 March 2015 08:48:43 UTC, wrote:
I'm sure that all your advice is well intentioned but I fail to see how a North Atlantic surface pressure chart can help you forecast tornado's?


Watch it closely the next few days as the moon drops in the sky and things get cooler. With a propensity to volcanism the spell is very similar to that of tornadic stuff. What you fail to see is that your looking glass is too dark. Ask god to give you more light.

How do you suppose the scientific approach is going to help anyone?

On Wednesday, 25 March 2015 07:40:26 UTC, Weatherlawyer wrote:
An airliner has gone down in the Alps killing 140 people:

https://encrypted.google.com/search?...01.N_lDwHPbsxQ

I got up early this morning after waking up too warm to sleep. Unusually warm weather is a signal in itself that there is a large earthquake due. Over in uk.sci.weather there has been talk for some time about electronic problems interrupting forecasts or data support.

I haven't suffered with anything like that yet, so that's a first (unless you count the annoyance of losing that one chart in the NA_EFS which is hardly on the same scale as a major traffic accident like the above.)


It has been interesting to watch that chart model run functioning as the degree of accuracy improves with closeness yet the chart remains missing. (The 30th shows the chart for the 29th)

http://weather.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html
You have to fiddle with the annoying Canadian settings. But what do you expect from a bunch of morons with a national sport where even the bats require bandages?

Further signalling:
List of earthquakes in the medium range is as long as I have seen it in a while.

No significant pair or triple adjacent consecutive events as is normal after a storm. There are a few smaller swarms but following a significant period of Tropical Storms that included Pam, there should have been a more noteworthy closure.

The lunar declination is at maximum north tomorrow which may explain the warmth. There are no strong signals on the North Atlantic chart. Nor is there an report of incidents with ferries capsizing. There was one such news item from 15 March; ten days out of spell.

Personally I was thinking tornadic stuff more likely, from the look of the Southern Ocean. It would be trite to say: "My condolences to the families of the people lost." but one just can't say nothing. Yet, this thread is not the place.


It is rare for such a phenomenon to occur without a companion earthquake of suitable size. However the earthquake signal should have been a cyclone with a slew of occlusions and occluded fronts giving due warning on the western side of the Mid Atlantic Ridge over at least three days with clear dart-boarding.

Instead we got what looked like it could have been tornado signals had the anticyclones remained in place over Greenland.

I never checked the Noon charts output for the North Atlantic. BoM on the other hand seemed quite clear on the subject. Tornadoes -sort of but overlaid on a chart that clearly shows tropical storms or -and it is a big or, something of an interference pattern that takes place every equinox.

What I was doing, besides ignoring everything, was wondering what the name of the next Philippines storm was going to be (it will be Chedeng or Maysak, I believe.) The Mauna Kea observatory model first gave warning of that a few days ago. Today it got serious:
http://mkwc.ifa.hawaii.edu/models/mo...&imgsize=Large

It should be a named storm on the 30th March and be a typhoon later that day or early 1 March 2015. It doesn't look like lasting long, starting cyclosis on the evening of the first or by midnight the next day at the latest. It will be a typhoon until noon on the third reaching the Philippines as a tropical depression.

There seems to be a developing system below it as the data on the chart runs out.

The tornadoes that struck Arkinsaw and Oklahoma last night are on the chart for the 25th which is still showing (Norman time.)

Tornado Reports (CSV) (Raw Tornado CSV)(?)
Time Location County State Lat Lon Comments

2215 WAR EAGLE BENTON AR 3627 9394 PROBABLE RAIN WRAPPED TORNADO. TREE DAMAGE. (TSA)

2230 2 N CLIFTY MADISON AR 3627 9380 (TSA)

2234 4 W SAND SPRINGS TULSA OK 3614 9618 *** 1 FATAL *** EXTENSIVE DAMAGE IN MOBILE HOME PARK NEAR HIGHWAY 51 AND 145 WEST AVENUE. (TSA)

2238 SAND SPRINGS TULSA OK 3614 9611 DONUT SHOP DESTROYED AT HIGHWAY 97. (TSA)

2247 2 S BERRYVILLE CARROLL AR 3634 9357 RAIN WRAPPED TORNADO (TSA)

2335 MOORE CLEVELAND OK 3534 9749 BEGAN 635PM NEAR SW119/PENN ENDED 646PM NEAR SE34/SUNNYLANE ... TIME AND LOCATION EST FROM RADAR. (OUN)

2356 INOLA ROGERS OK 3615 9551 (TSA)

0023 1 N PEGGS CHEROKEE OK 3610 9510 FENCES BLOWN DOWN (TSA)

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/150325_rpts.html

I have just looked at the North Atlantic charts for noon 25 March, 2015 and I would not have given a warning of tornadoes from them. They DO show a pair of anticyclones through which a pair of parallel fronts are running. I would have just warned of two severe medium quakes with a shared epicentre appearing consecutively on the list of quakes:

2015/03/25

06:41 36.38 71.98 5 Mb. PAKISTAN
06:34 39.8 73.5 4.2 Mb. Tajikistan-Xinjiang bor

06:29 43.7 145.9 4 Mb. Hokkaido, Japan region
00:34 42.42 142.98 5.1 Mb. HOKKAIDO, JAPAN REGION

Hardly what I would have suggested.

Still, it is a time of change in the hemispheres. I may not be all that useful as a thaumaturge in the deNada spells but look at the alternative:

https://www.academia.edu/11399518/Te...onst ructions

Lost sheep bleeting quasi-scientific terms as though by their many words they will be heard:
http://biblehub.com/matthew/6-7.htm