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Old February 6th 05, 09:53 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
Dave Wheeler Dave Wheeler is offline
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Default Snow on the Cairn Gorms

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from "Karl Cooper" contains these words:

"Alan White" wrote in message...
The term 'white out' is one that is becoming greatly misused and seems
to imply, in simple terms, snowing very heavily. Provided that snow is
lying, it's possible to experience a white out without any snow
falling at all. All it needs is lying snow and mist sufficiently dense
to provide omni directional lighting conditions such that no shadows
are visible and the shape and form of the ground underfoot cannot be
determined.


Alan


I once heard a pilot with the British Antarctic Survey describe their
technique for landing on the ice surface in white out conditions -
basically
fly straight and at a very slow descent rate until contact is made with the
surface, no point looking out the window. Of course the 'landing strip' is
enormous and completely flat.


Karl, Orkney


Yes, indeed, you don't need misty/foggy conditions for 'white out'.
After all you wouldn't be flying in such a place in foggy conditions!

Reminds me of what was not an uncommon experience when glacier skiing in
South Georgia. Visibility in excess of 100 km, but the only way that we
could progress was by throwing a glove 20-30 feet ahead of us and, if it
was still visible, ski up to it, pick it up and repeat the process
(assuming the intervening 20-30 feet held no dipsetc!). If it
disapperared take care - ahead could be an unseen icefall or crevasse!

On such occasions, despite the exceptional vis, the light bouncing
between extensive snow cover and 8/8 of low AS cloud, resulted in no
variation of light from any direction, no shadows and absolutely no
definition in the snow surface. In fact we would sometimes have amusing
episodes when, thinking we were on level snow, we stopped for a break -
only to find that as we bent to lift up a rucksack it was to find them
no longer there but instead 20-30 yards behind us! While standing
talking, still on our ski, the had been slowly and imperceptably
sliding down a gentle snow slope!

Dave
Fair Isle