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Old September 14th 16, 01:56 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
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Default Cornwall - Third big thunderstorm in 15 hours.

On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 05:40:28 -0700 (PDT)
Graham Easterling wrote:

On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 12:43:45 PM UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 09:13:14 UTC+1, Graham Easterling
wrote:
After yesterday afternoon's storm (flooding near Truro) and
yesterday's early evening storm (15mm in Penzance, 30mm reported
at Redruth) came this mornings storm (around 03:00-04:00), with
loads more lightning.

It's no unusual to get 3 showers with a flash of lightning within
24 hours in winter, but to have 3 separate (as opposed to
immediate following cells) impressive storms in such a short
space of time is.

Yesterday, when it was dry it was pretty dark, misty, gloomy, and
very cool in the afternoon.

24 hours ending 09:00
Max temp 18.7C (at 09:00 today)
Min Temp 16.6C (mid afternoon yesterday.

Total rainfall in Penzance 25.6mm, of which approx 15mm fell in
40mins commencing 19:00 yesterday.

Plenty of pictures on the web of people enjoying the 'heatwave'
in Cornwall yesterday. (It certainly wasn't just grim up north &
hot in the south as many posts suggest.)

Exciting though.

The intensity of the rain has caused some sewer overflows,
including at Gwithian, where SW Water refuse to except the
regular problems.

Plenty of problems still http://www.sas.org.uk/map/ (zoom in to
Cornwall)

Due to intensity of the rainfall, not wise to swim in the sea
near a river this morning.

Graham
Penzance


Graham

Did you notice any alert from the Met Office for any of you
thunderstorms. I didn't seen any issued myself apart from one for
the North of England, and yours seemed to produce much more
rainfall.

Bruce.


No, in fact there was no prior indication of thunder for any of the 3
storms on the Penzance 5 day forecast page either. I posted this in
an earlier thread cocerning the early evening storm, which gave the
largest rainfall in Penzance.

"The current storm I've been tracking since 16:00, but obviously not
by the MetO who show the current rainfall risk (at 19:00 & 20:00) as
10%. Perhaps they left a nought off, I mean its' a pretty big storm.
The 1st thunder was about 18:00, and over the last 30 minutes (19:00
onwards) it's been virtually continuous. "

Locally, there have been some very high totals, and a number of the
sewage storm overflows have overtopped. I was going swimming off
Penzance today, but there's of lot of diffuse pollution from the
runoff.

An area from Redruth to Truro got a lot of rain in the afternoon
storm, some place flooded twice, once in the afternoon storm, and
again last night.

This mornings early hours storm floods & damage
http://www.piratefm.co.uk/news/lates...s-in-cornwall/

Yesterday aft
http://www.westbriton.co.uk/huge-thu...ail/story.html

So 3 major storms in 15 hours, no warning, at the time each one was
occuring, no forecast of thunder. This morning at 03:30 the thunder
was continuous & almost overhead, yet when I checked, still no
thunder forecast. A complete fiasco.

All very dramatic exciting though


Also, on Breakfast this morning, yesterday's weather was summed up as
being hot and dry in the south with floods and thunderstorms in the
north. As an afterthought, there was a mention of some rain in the SW.

I wonder whether that weird description stems from Carol being in
London, hence the 'hot in the south' description, and the rest of the
team being in Salford, hence 'floods in the north' getting a mention.

It's always tempting to blame this sort of thing on 'presenters'
replacing 'forecasters' but it was always so. Most of my life I've
experienced occasions where I've thought, 'if they can't get the actual
weather right, what's the chance of them getting the forecast right?'

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