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Old September 25th 16, 12:14 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
Len Wood Len Wood is offline
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On Sunday, 25 September 2016 11:12:45 UTC+1, Alastair wrote:
On Saturday, 24 September 2016 22:36:05 UTC+1, Asha Santon wrote:

I am not taking sides for or against you. Everyone else is against you.
I am trying to understand your beliefs because of the fact that you
persist in the face of ridicule interests me. I admire people who have
the strength to do that. Right and wrong does not come into it.


That's a rather backhanded compliment.

Have you ever been asked to take part in market research?
They ask questions like 'which of these is nearest to your political
view, slightly left of centre, centre, slightly right of centre?'
Now assuming you agreed to take part, you choose one. You don't ask the
interviewer to add a box 'somewhat left of Stalin' (or whatever) and
then have them tick it.


I always tick the box "None of the above."

These things are very easy to answer. Indeed, they are formulated such
that everyone can. I did my best to formulate the choices I offered you
such that one would be nearest your view but could not know which.
There was no point in offering an exact match because nothing would be
gained by either of us.


In answer to your question - Neither (None of the above). They are both wrong.

I seem to remember reading you swearing at one person who would not
answer your four questions. You won't even answer one easy question.
Why is that? Doubts?


I swore at the person because he ridiculed me, not because he didn't answer the questions.

I will answer yours immediately afterwards. I did, after all, ask first..


I answered your question, but it seems you do not like my answer. Don't bother giving me yours, because I am not going to waste any

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Asha
nature.opcop.org.uk
Scotland


Asha,

I am sorry to say this will be my last response to you. For me this is just a waste of time trying to think of arguments that will connect with people who have already made up their minds. However, thanks to you I have one new argument which I will now present.

If you take an ice box out of the freezer, which I have just done, and place your hand over it palm side down you may sense cold. If you urn your hand over, with the back of your hand over the tray then you will certainly sense the cold being radiated from the ice. That radiation exists. All objects radiate. I call that radiation cold radiation when it cools the object it falls on. Thus cold radiation exists by definition!

That's all I got to say not I am not going to get into further arguments with you or anyone else no matter how abusive they get.

Bye,

Alastair.

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I'll pitch in for what it's worth.
I think Alastair's cold radiation is referring to net radaitive cooling,
i.e. surface (or layer) losing more radiation than gaining, therefore cooling.

Temperature is a on a scale.
It is bad physics to talk about a warm temperature. Temperatures are relative and it is better and correct to talk about a higher temperature rather than hot temperature.
Radiation is also on a scale.
A body is emitting radiation from a point high or low on the scale.
So strictly the terms warm or cold radiation are not allowed.

Having said that, the terms warm and cold temperatures are in common usage and the public don't complain about them.
So perhaps Alastair's cold and warm radiation will also come into commom usage.

Len
Wembury, SW Devon