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Old January 21st 17, 11:31 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
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Default [OT] More excitement to come!

On Saturday, 21 January 2017 11:31:04 UTC+3, Graham P Davis wrote:
On 21/01/17 05:20, wrote:
On Saturday, 21 January 2017 02:43:08 UTC+3, Adam Lea wrote:
On 20/01/2017 12:16,
wrote:


I hope they do. Sadly it won't be enough to scupper the process
but I'll be damned if the Brexiteers think they are going to get
an easy ride on this. Everything(legal of course) should be done
to stop this madness.

Col


Brexit is happening whether we like it or not. I think it is best
to accept what is happening and hope that the UK does come out as
well as it can. If the exit is bad for the UK then it may well
affect a lot of us adversely, so wishing for it to be hard makes no
sense to me. I also hope that the outcome ultimately turns out
better than expected, that won't be known until some time after we
have left properly.


I am not yet 100% convinced this will even happen at all. Call it
clutching at straws if you like but there are many twists & turns yet
to go on this. Remember the referendum reult isn't legally binding and
there will be a vote in Parliament to implement Brexit assuming the
Supreme Court decision goes against the Government. It should be made
hard for the Brexiteers in the sense that it should be fought all the
way and certainly to get as 'soft' a Brexit as reasonably possible.
There was no mention of the type of Brexit on the ballot paper so all
that is still up for grabs. Nigel Farage said before the vote that if
the result was 52-48 in favour of remain then the matter wouldn't be
over by a long shot, well now it's the reverse result then the matter
can't be consider to be over either.


If this referendum had been run under the Tory proposals for Trade Union
reform, it would have been declared an insufficient mandate for Brexit
negotiations to go ahead. Those proposals required at least 40% of
registered members of the union to have voted for a proposal, in this
case the vote for Brexit comprised only 37.4% of the electorate. Under
those proposals for TU reform, even if nobody had voted for Remain, the
vote for Brexit would have been deemed to have failed.

Whilst I can't agree with the TU reform package, I felt at the time that
a decision of this magnitude should have required a majority of the
electorate to vote for a change rather than merely a majority of those
who could be bothered to vote.


If you cannot be bothered to vote in a referendum such as this then the only conclusion I can draw is that you aren't bothered about the outcome.
Therefore as far as the decision process goes their views are irrelevant & inconsequential.

Col