On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 8:01:04 PM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Tudor Hughes wrote:

On Saturday, 13 January 2018 12:25:38 UTC, Col wrote:
On 13/01/2018 10:59, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Stav Danaos has just posted a summary of the weather for next
week on Twitter. It says

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Turning colder as we head into next week with gales and a mixture
of sunshine and blustery showers - some heavy and wintry in
nature with snow on northern hills
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It all depends on your definition of 'northern hills' but I think
it would be reasonable to assume that meant hills in the northern
half of the country. Looking just at mainland Great Britain it is
552 miles from Bournemouth to Thurso. The half-way point is
around Penrith. Surely, therefore, the term 'northern hills'
should mean only Scotland and the far north of England. I suspect
that during next week snow will fall on hills very much further
south than that. 'The North' doesn't start at the Chiltern Hills
:-(

I used to get into trouble on here complaining about London
centricity so I don't do it anymore

I guess 'Northern Hills' depends on how you define 'The North' and
that generally means Northern England, which of course means areas
south of your mid point of Penrith. The hills around here count of
course as would the southern Pennines. But what of the Peak
District, would you consider that all to be 'The North', even it's
most southern extent?

Another vague thing is 'snow on high ground'. How high is 'high'
ground? 1000ft certainly, but I'm at 500ft, is that 'high' ground,
well it's high*ish* I suppose. I'd say 750ft was the cut off point.
Granted they do sometimes quote heights in forecasts but of course
a lot of people probably don't really know how high they live
anyway.


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Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg

To me, a southerner, "Northern Hills" means The Pennines, The Lake
District and the North York Moors. Further north than that it should
be labelled Scotland. Failure to do so is lazy and slapdash, not for
the first time, not by a long chalk. Another example of this
throwaway attitude is Phil Avery telling us that as far as
temperatures in England go "4 to 9 should just about cover it".
Well, it would, wouldn't it, in the recent synoptic setup. Give us a
forecast, clever clogs, not a climatological statement.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

If the forecast is intended to refer to England then I would agree with
you, Tudor, but the forecast that I highlighted at the start of this
thread was, I assume, intended to refer to the whole of the UK. The
term 'Northern Hills' should therefore be rather different in that
context. Living, as I do, in the southern end of the Pennines I
certainly do not consider that I live in 'The North'. As I said earlier
in this thread, the way the Met Office splits the Country up puts
Tideswell in the East Midlands.

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Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr
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The Northern Hills to me are Dartmoor.

Len
Wembury, SW Devon coast

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