On 05/08/2019 19:15, Alastair B. McDonald wrote:
On Monday, 5 August 2019 15:27:25 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
On 05/08/2019 15:29, Graham P Davis wrote:
On 05/08/2019 10:16, Spike wrote:

The interesting thing about the AP article is that much of what was said
was in the form of quotes rather than words that had been jiggled about.

As I pointed out in the two examples I gave, quotes can often bear
little or no relationship to what was actually said. I've also seen
articles based on press statements that have been so mangled that they
also bear no relevance to the original statement.

But, on the other hand, no specific reason has been advanced to doubt
the provenance of the information in that particular AP article.

That article was correct. It is backed up in a book both I and Graham have read, "Losing Earth: The Decade We Could Have Stopped Climate Change", by Nathaniel Rich, 20119.

Thanks for confirming the article was correctly founded - it means we
can put an end to the 'mis-reporting by the media' line of argument that
was initially used to cast doubt on it.

If we had taken action in 1980 and 1990 we could have prevented the disasters that have only just begun, with record temperatures, floods, and wildfire spreading throughout the world, not to mention the immigration crises affecting both Europe and the USA, and sea level rise accelerating.

i thought the lag in Al Gore's day was 800 years rather than the 30 to
40 you suggest - but didn't he have the graph the wrong way round, with
temperature rise following the CO2 rise? The Vostock ice-cores confirmed
that CO2 lags temperature rather than leading it.


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Spike