Graham Easterling wrote:

On Friday, 26 February 2021 at 21:10:45 UTC, wrote:
Nick Gardner wrote:

Denialist is rather a pejorative term with connotations. It is now used
for anybody that doesn't agree with either the narrative or somebody
else's opinions. It is used as an insult.

The term 'climate catastrophe' is a fairly recent term and designed to
up the fear.

if we not stop pumping CO2 into the atmosphere, the result will be the
death of billions of people.

That is an alarmist & almost certainly ridiculous statement, as extreme as
anything a denier might come up with.

Sadly I think it's too late to prevent significant climatic change. The exact
nature of these changes is very hard to predict, hence the need to minimise
the effect we are having. Reducing CO2 emissions seems something of a lost
cause, preventing destruction of the rain forests would seem easier, but
mankind is totalling failing with that. It's all about damage management now.
I've always been concerned how polarised & extreme many statements that are
made are, on both sides, which doesn't help.

As a member of Greenpeace for decades I am deeply concerned about the damage
we are doing to the planet. I joined after witnessing the devastation of the
Torrey Canyon disaster, much of the oil appeared on the beach in front of me.
Apart from the devastation caused (much by the detergent sprayed on it) the
stench was awful.

My own personal view is that plastic pollution may end up being more
devastating than climate change.

Graham
Penzance

I have speculated that hundreds of millions might die, Alastair speculates that
the number would be billions. I wouldn't care to argue which speculation might
be nearer the mark but the potential number is certainly very large. Causes
would include broadscale redistribution of rainfall patterns impacting on
agriculture, flooding caused by increased rainfall, heat stress, sea level
rise, perhaps exacerbated by more frequent and more intense tropical cyclones
and the expanion of areas affected by TCs. I would love to be proved wrong but
I don't see that there is any potential for all of this to have a happy ending.
Those are my personal views and I accept that others will have different views.
None of us can be sure, at present, who will prove to be correct.

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