On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 5:17:02 PM UTC, G&L First wrote:
On Friday, 26 February 2021 at 15:42:59 UTC, Julian Mayes wrote:
It's not that that I disagree that the world is a warmer place or that mankind is very largely responsible for this, it's that the warnings seem rather hysterical, so much so that members of the public will tend to dismiss them. In any case not all the disruptive effects of flooding are due to increased rainfall; we can have a considerable effect on how this excess is dealt with and maybe some practices will need to change.

Tudor Hughes
That's a fair comment - I certainly flinch at some alarmist language and how it fuels denialism. Yes, it can be counter-productive. Of course, we don't know if the more melodramatic outcomes will actually occur, but we need to do what we can to mitigate future effects and to appreciate just how large the issues are. By 'large' let's start with the projections dealing with the North Atlantic overturning circulation - main story in The Guardian for a time y'day.....

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...say-scientists

Julian
But a 30yr reconstruction of AMOC shows no decline Julian.
It depends what time scale you want to look at.
Have you read this study by our oceanography experts at Southampton?
https://os.copernicus.org/articles/17/285/2021/

Len

I have read it now, Len, thanks! I was aware of a 'no decline' study, not sure if it was this.

Yes, different studies will come to different conclusions - as you state, study periods vary. Methodologies vary.

A shame that some will conclude that a particular study or conclusion is 'wrong'.

Julian