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Apparently (according to a regional BBC news interview with regional
forecaster Shefali Oza) a farmer can drive all the way to a
supermarket's warehouse with a perfectly viable crop and have it
refused on the loading dock if the weather forecast is not good and the
stocks are not low.

If the weather is not good and the crop is a salad vegetable for
example, the supermarket management assumes that the consumption of
salads will not be high enough to warrant their buying excess stock.

Which is all very well but why not tell the farmers they buy from that
they employ this tactic? Who would be hurt if this was common
knowledge?

If the weather is good the supermarket is more likely to buy the crop
as they think they might sell more salad in nice weather. Which means
that an erroneous forecast for bad weather will cost everyone money.

How do those statistics add up?

Assume there are as many bad forecasts for good as for bad spells. For
the farmer it's swings and roundabouts.

For the supermarket, they can miss out on an opportunity to sell more
stock if the weather turns out to be warm when slated for cold and
overstock if the weather slated for warm turns out to be cold or wet.

In the UK there are warm wet spells and cold sunny ones ...ah bugger;
my meds have kicked in again haven't they?

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Apparently (according to a regional BBC news interview with regional
forecaster Shefali Oza) a farmer can drive all the way to a
supermarket's warehouse with a perfectly viable crop and have it
refused on the loading dock if the weather forecast is not good and the
stocks are not low.

If the weather is not good and the crop is a salad vegetable for
example, the supermarket management assumes that the consumption of
salads will not be high enough to warrant their buying excess stock.

Which is all very well but why not tell the farmers they buy from that
they employ this tactic? Who would be hurt if this was common
knowledge?

If the weather is good the supermarket is more likely to buy the crop
as they think they might sell more salad in nice weather. Which means
that an erroneous forecast for bad weather will cost everyone money.

How do those statistics add up?

Assume there are as many bad forecasts for good as for bad spells. For
the farmer it's swings and roundabouts.

For the supermarket, they can miss out on an opportunity to sell more
stock if the weather turns out to be warm when slated for cold and
overstock if the weather slated for warm turns out to be cold or wet.

In the UK there are warm wet spells and cold sunny ones ...ah bugger;
my meds have kicked in again haven't they?



I fail to find anything in you vitriol that would merit the headline
"bast**d accountants ruining the country" I think you may have a case in the
example given if you were to have addressed it to supermarket buyers who in
my experience are definitely not accountants !!

Jim


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Jim wrote:

I fail to find anything in you vitriol that would merit the headline
"******* accountants ruining the country" I think you may have a case in the
example given if you were to have addressed it to supermarket buyers who in
my experience are definitely not accountants !!


I was using the term "accountant" loosely.

The fact is that the driving force behind any country's wealth is it's
farming community and whenever they are hampered by bean counters (ie
all the time) then it may be said that the *******s are ruining the
country.

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The fact is that the driving force behind any country's wealth is it's
farming community


What nonsense!

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The fact is that the driving force behind any country's wealth is it's
farming community and whenever they are hampered by bean counters (ie
all the time) then it may be said that the *******s are ruining the
country.



I think you will find that it depends on what that country decides to do
with it's wealth, which determines the success or otherwise of that country
and that most certainly is not within the remit of any beancounter.

Jim




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The fact is that the driving force behind any country's wealth is it's
farming community and whenever they are hampered by bean counters (ie
all the time) then it may be said that the *******s are ruining the country.


I think you will find that it depends on what that country decides to do
with it's wealth, which determines the success or otherwise of that country
and that most certainly is not within the remit of any beancounter.


I doubt you will find that the fact remains that farming is governed by
people who are looking at the farthings not the far things, because you
think you are thinking when you are merely rearranging my prejudices.

You don't seem to be aware that the office of Chancellor of the
Exchequer is the one of chief bean counter and controls almost
everything the government decides to do with its wealth. I imagine most
other countries have similar offices with the same remit.

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Jim wrote:

I fail to find anything in you vitriol that would merit the headline
"******* accountants ruining the country" I think you may have a case in
the
example given if you were to have addressed it to supermarket buyers who
in
my experience are definitely not accountants !!


I was using the term "accountant" loosely.



You are not therefore referring to qualified accountants.

Jim


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Jim wrote:

You are not therefore referring to qualified accountants.


I suppose you must have jumped to that conclusion from the title.

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I fail to find anything in you vitriol that would merit the headline
"bast**d accountants ruining the country" I think you may have a case in
the example given if you were to have addressed it to supermarket buyers
who in my experience are definitely not accountants !!


I used to know an accountant who was a part-time farmer.

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Which is all very well but why not tell the farmers they buy from that
they employ this tactic? Who would be hurt if this was common
knowledge?


Do the farmers somehow forget this as they return home?

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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN


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