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I just noticed this run:
Nov 28 06:29 Dec 5 00:25 Dec 12 14:32 http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclips...hases2001.html For the unwashed this is the code: (I have to repeat this every so often as the more knowledgeable among you tend to lack insight and find the idea of new ideas far from ideal.) OK, the wet weather in the NW Atlantic basin occurs off the UK with a Low at the appropriate longitude and latitude off Iceland or points south to Spain. Where the Low is is governed by the harmonic set up by the astrometry that also times the phases of the moon. And for the above appears to be when the phase is around 1:30 am or pm. A little earlier and the weather is still wet but not so intense. A little earlier still it is more like drizzle or mist, and yet earlier still and it is fine. The code goes roughly like this: 5 am or pm and it is anticyclonic. 1:30 am or pm very wet. 6 or 12 am or pm misty. And this run of spells is for misty. Or rather they all just miss that spell by 30 minutes. (Well last weeks and this weeks does. !4:32 is more like an hour out. Except it is a weak spell in my not inconsiderable opinion.) Looks interesting is what I mean. What it is is something like half way to another severe typhoon and the typhoons seem to drag with them a series of large mag quakes. If that happens, the cyclones in the North Atlantic will go north again and not break on Norway and dissipate. A situation akin to a negative NAO. So we have two half past misties and a half way to thunder coming up. I would like to stay up and discuss this further but one has work on the morrow and thus needs to retire and cogitate as there is no longer time to do the thing properly and vegetate. |
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"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message oups.com... I just noticed this run: Nov 28 06:29 Dec 5 00:25 Dec 12 14:32 http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclips...hases2001.html For the unwashed this is the code: Oh wait. Let me get out my magic decoder ring. Ok, I'm ready. Hey wait. Where'd it all go? Darn. I deleted it. George |
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weather is unpredictable as are lawyers.
George wrote: "Weatherlawyer" wrote in message oups.com... I just noticed this run: Nov 28 06:29 Dec 5 00:25 Dec 12 14:32 http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclips...hases2001.html For the unwashed this is the code: Oh wait. Let me get out my magic decoder ring. Ok, I'm ready. Hey wait. Where'd it all go? Darn. I deleted it. George |
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Ja ♥ wrote: weather is unpredictable as are lawyers. Particularly so in my case this year. ot dissimilar in many ways to the state of democracy in the Americas. Take Venezuela for example The USA should be pleased as punch that democracy has been alive and thriving in that example of popularism. But what do we find in The Land Of The Free? A garrison town in George a dedicated not to improving the lot of banana republics everywhere, but rather the reverse. And is it different in more sober states? Nope. Whilst hundred and hundreds of people die in a mudslide and one of the worst spates of typhoons in decades, the British news over runs due to a fire in a fireworks factory. I'm not decrying the situation here where two firemen died but prior to that the BBC for example was concerned with the death of a spy, the situation with US airlines in the snow, an Australian cricket match and And well that was it really. However all is not lost. There is still the internet. And whilst for some the weather is off topic in a newsgroup dedicated to earthquakes, one of us is concerned with the holistic approach. And takes the time to bother with the deaths of over a thousand. |
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"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message ups.com... Ja ? wrote: weather is unpredictable as are lawyers. Particularly so in my case this year. ot dissimilar in many ways to the state of democracy in the Americas. Take Venezuela for example The USA should be pleased as punch that democracy has been alive and thriving in that example of popularism. But what do we find in The Land Of The Free? A garrison town in George a dedicated not to improving the lot of banana republics everywhere, but rather the reverse. And is it different in more sober states? Nope. Whilst hundred and hundreds of people die in a mudslide and one of the worst spates of typhoons in decades, the British news over runs due to a fire in a fireworks factory. I'm not decrying the situation here where two firemen died but prior to that the BBC for example was concerned with the death of a spy, the situation with US airlines in the snow, an Australian cricket match and And well that was it really. However all is not lost. There is still the internet. And whilst for some the weather is off topic in a newsgroup dedicated to earthquakes, one of us is concerned with the holistic approach. And takes the time to bother with the deaths of over a thousand. Sorry to burst your bubble: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6203110.stm George |
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Weatherlawyer wrote: Nov 28 06:29 Dec 5 00:25 Dec 12 14:32 http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclips...hases2001.html The code goes roughly like this: 5 am or pm and it is anticyclonic. 1:30 am or pm very wet. 6 or 12 am or pm misty. And this run of spells is for misty. Or rather they all just miss that spell by 30 minutes. (Well last weeks and this weeks does. !4:32 is more like an hour out. Except it is a weak spell.) (Of its kind, ilk, species..) Looks interesting is what I mean. What it is is something like half way to another severe typhoon and the typhoons seem to drag with them a series of large mag quakes. If that happens, the cyclones in the North Atlantic will go north again and not break on Norway and dissipate. A situation akin to a negative NAO. So we have two half past misties and a half way to thunder coming up. As Typhoon Utor prepares to find somewhere in the Philippines not already devastated by Durain, some here might care to peruse these splatters: 2.6 59.258 -152.813 SOUTHERN ALASKA 3.9 60.147 -153.192 SOUTHERN ALASKA 3.7 60.165 -153.138 SOUTHERN ALASKA 2.6 62.092 -151.294 CENTRAL ALASKA 3.3 53.675 -163.879 UNIMAK ISLAND REGION, ALASKA 3.3 53.614 -163.721 UNIMAK ISLAND REGION, ALASKA 2.9 31.846 -116.356 BAJA CALIFORNIA, MEXICO 4.3 31.794 -116.312 BAJA CALIFORNIA, MEXICO See also: HANOI, Dec. 6 (Xinhua) -- Typhoon Durian in Vietnam had killed 50 people and left 55 others missing by Tuesday night, local newspaper Youth reported Wednesday. The typhoon, which started to hit Vietnam's central region on Monday night and then swept through its southern region, also injured 409 people, of whom 164 were seriously injured, damaged 119,314 houses, and caused 888 ships and boats to sink, the newspaper quoted the Central Steering Committee on Storm and Flood Prevention as reporting. Durian killed 28 people and left 16 others missing in southern Ba Ria Vung Tau province. The respective figures were 17 and one in southern Ben Tre province, and two and 26 in southern Tien Giang province. The main reason of high fatalities and injury rates was the subjectivity of local people and inexperience in dealing with typhoon of local authorities. Deputy Prime Minister Nguyen Sinh Hung criticized leaders of Ben Tre, Tien Giang, Ba Ria Vung Tau and central Binh Thuan province for their poor anti-typhoon activities, the newspaper said. http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_5442387.htm And: CEBU, Philippines (AP) - Two Asian summits scheduled for next week have been postponed to January because a strong storm is bearing down on the meeting site, a top Philippine official said Friday. Marciano Paynor Jr., head of the summit organizing committee, denied that the decision was driven by the threat of terrorism. The U.S., Britain and Australia had warned Thursday that terrorists might be in the final stages of planning an attack during the Association of Southeast Asian Nations and East Asia summits in Cebu. "Categorically I will state that the decision was based on this weather disturbance and this weather disturbance only," Paynor told a news conference, adding there was a 70% chance that the storm would hit Cebu province. The storm is expected to hit the area when Asian leaders would be flying in over the weekend, Paynor said. The ASEAN summit was scheduled to be held Monday and Tuesday, followed by the second East Asia summit on Wednesday. Military chief of staff Gen. Hermogenes Esperon said the 10,000-strong security contingent was prepared for anything. "The assessment is that we have deployed enough security forces and, minus the weather, we are confident we could hold it," Esperon said. Paynor said Tropical Storm Utor had just been upgraded to a typhoon, but Prisco Nilo, acting chief of the Philippine weather bureau, later said it had not reached that criteria as of late Friday. http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurr...lippines_x.htm |
Voices from the gave. (Long post and no apology.)
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.g...8c3b924528173c 1 From: Michael Mcneil Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2005 11:51 pm 2005/01/27 04.89N 82.54W 4.7 SOUTH OF PANAMA 05.56N 94.36E 5.8 NORTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA 08.02N 94.15E 5.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.97N 94.15E 5.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.90N 94.33E 5.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 08.10N 93.98E 5.5 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.96N 94.17E 5.2 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.97N 94.30E 5.5 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.97N 94.02E 5.5 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.97N 94.02E 5.0 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.98N 94.03E 5.7 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.89N 93.96E 5.3 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 08.03N 93.95E 5.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 27.23N 140.34E 4.9 BONIN ISLANDS, JAPAN REGION 14.01N 91.86W 4.4 GUATEMALA 2005/01/26 08.05N 94.09E 5.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 08.04N 94.08E 4.6 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 02.91N 94.43E 6.1 OFF W COAST OF N SUMATRA 07.99N 94.07E 4.8 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 06.87S 129.54E 5.5 BANDA SEA 08.30N 93.98E 5.6 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 03.23N 96.23E 5.1 NORTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA 07.99N 94.31E 4.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 08.07N 94.29E 4.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.84N 93.69E 4.8 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 45.97N 151.86E 4.5 KURIL ISLANDS 04.65N 93.26E 4.7 OFF W COAST OF N SUMATRA 61.47N 151.50W 3.8 SOUTHERN ALASKA 05.40N 92.90E 4.6 OFF W COAST OF N SUMATRA 08.09N 94.12E 4.8 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 24.59S 179.67E 466.4 4.8 SOUTH OF FIJI ISLANDS Is there a cyclone in the region? A super typhoon? 10 From: Roger Stanley Dubok - Date: Sat, Jan 29 2005 12:09 am Very interesting, please tell me more. 11 From: Roger Stanley Dubok Date: Sat, Jan 29 2005 12:08 am No he doesn't agree? So what are your methods? Roger Stanley Dubok "Michael Mcneil" wrote in news:55c96a6e571a471bdbd3704c3d50df37.45219@mygate .mailgate.org: ...first arm yourself with the logic Newton used as propounded by the great thinkers of his time: An object will not move until it is moved; having moved will not stop until it is stopped all the above actions have counter-actions. 12 From: Michael Mcneil Date: Sat, Jan 29 2005 10:35 am "Roger Stanley Dubok" wrote in message No he doesn't agree? So what are your methods? What does seem true is that a run of lunar phases that in the normal course of events tend to induce a certain sort of weather, will if there is a run of them, [as for example he Daren 11S SWI 17 January 21 January 45 40 Ernest 12S SWI 20 January 24 January 100 90 Tim 13S AUS 23 January 25 January 40 45 Felapi - SWI 27 January 28 January - 35 http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/.../january.html] induce some sort of powerful harmonic associated with super-typhoons (F4 or 5 Hurricanes) or a spate of destructive tornadoes. Other give-aways are also weather related -as for instance when a long standing (by UK terms) weather system breaks, usually having held off an occluded front building up in the Atlantic until it moves over to Norway or the UK. And yet another method is when one notices a degree of uncertainty from the presenters of weather forecasts on the news programmes. In that case provided that the lunar phases accord with the sort of weather actually occurring, there is likely to be a tropical or extra tropical storm broaching somewhere on the planet. If, as is the case at the moment, there is discord then there is likely to be a large earthquake. However before a large earthquake occurs it is "usual" for the run of phases to come to an end. This present run is not due to end until the second half of February. In fact a run of extremely similar lunar phases (such as for example for the 25th Jan, 2nd and 8th February [2005] aught to induce an even stronger spell or harmonic that I presume will run through the weaker spell on the 16th. The problem then is that the phase for the 24th of February is that it should induce marked anticyclonic weather. But that is exactly the sort of weather we are already having.) If you take a look at the weather in the UK for 1976 however, you will notice that there was a long spell of very hot weather that summer bringing drought to a lot of the Sahel and most unusually to parts of the UK. When the drought in the UK broke there was a large earthquake in Chile. Almost none of the lunar phases for that summer would have warned of a drought. Small wonder then that the so called experts have rejected any comments that the moon may have some relationship to weather or earthquakes. Smaller wonder too, that despite throwing money at geologists and their kin, none of the finest brains in that branch of academia outside of China (where a more holistic approach has proved effective at times) none of them has come up with anything useful. Nothing even remotely interesting in fact. Well, you may find beach balls interesting. (Not my cup of tea though.) Here is something I prepared earlier: This phase is the second or last quarter JAN 03 17:46 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/.../browse_frm/th... 03 January 17:43. Unsettled, overcast and breezy. 10 January 12:04. Unsettled and overcast. 17 January 07:00. Fine, high pressure. Actually rain. ************************************** 25January 10:33. Ridges cols or troughs Be nice if it is just Mount St Helens: ************************************** 02 February 07:25. Ridges cols or troughs 08 February 22:30. Ridges cols or troughs (Talk about vague; eh? How about the next one) 16 February 00:20. Unsettled, overcast and high wind but heading towards ridges cols or troughs. 24 February 04:55. Fine, high pressure. Look out for something nasty somewhere on the planet around this week. Either that or it will carry through with the unsettled stuff and... God help us all in May. Or as it now looks likely: Either that or it will carry through with the anticylonic stuff and... God help us all in May. [I can't remember off hand exactly what happened in May but the North Atlantic Oscillation took a nose dive from around April when the whole of the northern hemisphere except for Ireland and the UK were covered in snow. This negative NAO situation persisted until very recently] 29 From: Michael Mcneil Date: Fri, Jan 28 2005 11:29 am "Michael Mcneil" wrote in message news:d218a52078832351d09809af7cf75b2b.45219@mygate .mailgate.org And the beat goes on with more fairly high mag quakes in the Nicobar Islands region so far today. Is there a cyclone in the region? A super typhoon? I was not expecting to find a cyclone in the area as it is so close to the equator. Anyone who knows anything about the behaviour of the sun and moon will appreciate what I mean. However there seems to be precious little going on anywhe http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/cmoll/cmoll.html Rather a slow download if you are dialup but well worth waiting for. I wonder how these things relate to anticyclonic activity. Are the aurorae still flaring? 30 From: George Date: Fri, Jan 28 2005 11:54 am Thanks for proving yourself wrong, once again. Looks like you did the work for us. 33 From: Roger Stanley Dubok Date: Sat, Jan 29 2005 12:13 am So if there isn't anything precious going on, then why did these quakes happen? 34 From: Michael Mcneil Date: Sat, Jan 29 2005 9:18 am I did not state that earthquakes are caused by cyclones. I have notice a coincidence between large quakes and cyclonic activity (no more and no less.) As it happens there were a couple of cyclones broaching Madagascar apparently around that time. I couldn't see anything about them though. There looked to be something off southern Australia too but that one (if there was one) was off the map. What makes these Nicobar quakes unusual is that they are unusual. There was a spate of similar ones just after the Banda Atjeh disaster. (There were no others reported on the same NEIC site for that day.) 35 From: Michael Mcneil Date: Sun, Jan 30 2005 10:25 am 2005/01/27 04.89N 82.54W 4.7 SOUTH OF PANAMA 05.56N 94.36E 5.8 NORTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA 08.02N 94.15E 5.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.97N 94.15E 5.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.90N 94.33E 5.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 08.10N 93.98E 5.5 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.96N 94.17E 5.2 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.97N 94.30E 5.5 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.97N 94.02E 5.5 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.97N 94.02E 5.0 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.98N 94.03E 5.7 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.89N 93.96E 5.3 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 08.03N 93.95E 5.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 27.23N 140.34E 4.9 BONIN ISLANDS, JAPAN REGION 14.01N 91.86W 4.4 GUATEMALA 2005/01/26 08.05N 94.09E 5.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 08.04N 94.08E 4.6 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 02.91N 94.43E 6.1 OFF W COAST OF N SUMATRA 07.99N 94.07E 4.8 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 06.87S 129.54E 5.5 BANDA SEA 08.30N 93.98E 5.6 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 03.23N 96.23E 5.1 NORTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA 07.99N 94.31E 4.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 08.07N 94.29E 4.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 07.84N 93.69E 4.8 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 45.97N 151.86E 4.5 KURIL ISLANDS 04.65N 93.26E 4.7 OFF W COAST OF N SUMATRA 61.47N 151.50W 3.8 SOUTHERN ALASKA 05.40N 92.90E 4.6 OFF W COAST OF N SUMATRA 08.09N 94.12E 4.8 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 24.59S 179.67E 466.4 4.8 SOUTH OF FIJI ISLANDS Well we can always fight among ourselves. It is not so much strange as interesting that almost every quake since the big one has been in the area devastated. And no sign of them abating: 5.8 SIMEULUE, INDONESIA 5.4 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.8 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.1 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.4 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.2 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 4.3 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA 5.9 NORTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA 6.3 NORTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA 5.4 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA 5.0 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA 5.2 NEW BRITAIN REGION, P.N.G. 6.1 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 6.0 NORTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA 5.8 MINDANAO, PHILIPPINES 6.2 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA 5.6 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA 5.3 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.6 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.7 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA 5.9 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.9 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA 5.5 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.4 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 6.3 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 6.2 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.5 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 6.5 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.8 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.7 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.7 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 7.5 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 6.1 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.9 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA 6.0 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.8 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.8 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA 5.9 NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.8 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION 5.8 NORTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA 9.0 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA http://groups-beta.google.com/group/.../browse_frm/th... [You can see from the quality of the discussions -as for example, with the fool below; that I was somewhat loath to respond to more than a few posts in this thread. Matters seem to have resolved themselves somewhat since, with the like of Felix Tilley doing me a great favour in placing my posts in his kill file filters. Why it took him so long is anyone's guess.] 36 From: George Date: Sun, Jan 30 2005 12:10 pm Northern California, Mindinao Phillipines, and New Britain are not in the area of the December 26th earthquake. [If only he had the ability to read between the lines, he might notice one or two other lines: "It is not so much strange as interesting that almost every quake since the big one has been in the area devastated." All the above tended to sidetrack anyone interested in a discussion about the frequency of typhoons and hurricanes of rather large proportions at around the time of large magnitude quakes or series of swarms of them. But it's never too late.] |
"Voices from the grave" I meant.
Just a spelling correction to the title.
A lot of people have died since I first mooted this idea and where has science taken us? The brink of discovery? Alas.... .....no! |
Voices from the gave. (Long post and no apology.)
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message ups.com... Edited from: snip What is a "gave", and why are there voices coming from it? :-) George |
"Voices from the grave" I meant.
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message oups.com... Just a spelling correction to the title. A lot of people have died since I first mooted this idea and where has science taken us? The brink of discovery? Alas.... ....no! Maybe you bored them to death. Shame on you! George |
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