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Cold weather brought ice to West Los Angeles Sunday morning Jan 14
2007. I saw it at
Clover Ave School, near Westwood and National Blvds, where sprinkler
water ran off onto the sidewalk and froze. It was still frozen at 10:15
am (in the shade) and my little daughter had fun sliding on it. This
loction is only 5 miles from the ocean and "never" freezes. It s not
like other areas of "Los Angeles" which are much further from the ocean
and
have a more extreme climate, and get freezes every few years, such as
the San Fernando Valley.
Tropical plants grow all over here and I have never seen this in 20
years.

Santa Monica Airport reported a low of 32. Surprisingly downtown LA was
warmer at 38.


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tom t/LA wrote:

Cold weather brought ice to West Los Angeles Sunday morning Jan 14
2007. I saw it at Clover Ave School, near Westwood and National Blvds, where sprinkler
water ran off onto the sidewalk and froze. It was still frozen at 10:15
am (in the shade) and my little daughter had fun sliding on it. This
loction is only 5 miles from the ocean and "never" freezes. It s not
like other areas of "Los Angeles" which are much further from the ocean
and have a more extreme climate, and get freezes every few years, such as
the San Fernando Valley. Tropical plants grow all over here and I have never seen this in 20
years.

Santa Monica Airport reported a low of 32. Surprisingly downtown LA was warmer at 38.


Exceptional temperatures are a mark of imminent earthquakes. In Britain
wrm temperatures are not unusual. Take a look at the records for this
date:
8.2 2007/01/13 04:23:36 46.700 154.400 23.0 EAST OF THE KURIL ISLANDS
8.2 2007/01/13 04:23:21 46.272 154.455 10.0 EAST OF THE KURIL ISLANDS
Tell me what time the high tide was in the weather station you use for
an archive.

(More to come on Thursday -or around about then.)

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Weatherlawyer wrote:
tom t/LA wrote:

Cold weather brought ice to West Los Angeles Sunday morning Jan 14
2007. I saw it at Clover Ave School, near Westwood and National Blvds, where sprinkler
water ran off onto the sidewalk and froze. It was still frozen at 10:15
am (in the shade) and my little daughter had fun sliding on it. This
loction is only 5 miles from the ocean and "never" freezes. It s not
like other areas of "Los Angeles" which are much further from the ocean
and have a more extreme climate, and get freezes every few years, such as
the San Fernando Valley. Tropical plants grow all over here and I have never seen this in 20
years.

Santa Monica Airport reported a low of 32. Surprisingly downtown LA was warmer at 38.


Exceptional temperatures are a mark of imminent earthquakes. In Britain
wrm temperatures are not unusual. Take a look at the records for this
date:
8.2 2007/01/13 04:23:36 46.700 154.400 23.0 EAST OF THE KURIL ISLANDS
8.2 2007/01/13 04:23:21 46.272 154.455 10.0 EAST OF THE KURIL ISLANDS
Tell me what time the high tide was in the weather station you use for
an archive.

(More to come on Thursday -or around about then.)


No people will die this day. An only partially explainedglitch in the
couple is that mists have descended on the UK.

This means storms; cyclones, not the subsurface variety -well, maybe a
few 6.3's or so.

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#$%^* global warming again!

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rick++ wrote:

#$%^* global warming again!


I hope you don't think I am an advocate for the theory that a gas cloud
on earth can in some way increase the heat output of the sun.

Speaking of which:

"A fleet of satellites called THEMIS will launch in February to
determine what triggers magnetic 'substorms' on Earth that cause
auroras and may unleash radiation that can endanger astronauts and fry
satellites.

The satellites will launch together on a single Delta II rocket on 15
February from NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida, US."

http://space.newscientist.com/articl...-triggers.html

I thought these particular balloons went up a year or so ago. The
article goes on to state:

"Substorms are periods of rapid change in the region around the Earth
dominated by the planet's magnetic field, called the magnetosphere.
They are associated with the sudden brightening of light displays in
the sky called auroras.

Isolated substorms can happen during periods of relatively little solar
activity, and are not dangerous. But when the Sun has an outburst that
sends clouds of charged particles streaming towards Earth, a series of
10 or more substorms can occur in rapid succession. This barrage may be
responsible for the failure of power grids and satellites observed
during some of the events.

There are two competing ideas for what triggers substorms. One says
they happen when solar activity compresses the magnetic field lines
around Earth, causing large electrical currents to flow in the tenuous
gas of charged particles in the magnetosphere.

The other hypothesis is that substorms happen when magnetic field lines
compress and suddenly relax in events called magnetic reconnections,
which accelerate charged particles towards the Earth.

Understanding what triggers substorms could help scientists predict
which solar outbursts are hazardous and which will leave the Earth and
its vicinity relatively unscathed.

To identify their trigger, NASA is launching a fleet of five satellites
called Time History of Events and Macroscale Interactions during
Substorms (THEMIS).

THEMIS is a stepping stone towards understanding space weather and its
effects, says the mission's chief scientist, Vassilis Angelopoulos of
the University of California, Berkeley, US.

"Unless we understand how space storms work, it is very difficult to
predict when they are going to happen," he says. "It is even more
difficult for us to predict what the effects are going to be.""

Which is a given only if the researches do not discount all
possibilities and get lost in irrelevant data or sidetracked by new
things learned. It is a pity such material is held in the hands of
people with funding for relatively shout bouts of research. Typically
the time period it takes to get degrees or doctorates or what ever they
are called.

Such a noble attempt is worth more than that.

"THEMIS will improve the understanding of space weather by determining
which of the two candidate processes triggers substorms, he says. "By
timing the onset time of the current disruption process and the
reconnection process we can tell which one starts first," he says,
revealing which is the cause and which is the effect."

Like I said, it is a start. Unfortunately I already know what the cause
is and no one asked me.

Or gave me a few bob and some leads to help my research. Good job I did
it on a shoe string. And that there is a god to make such a thing
possible to those who want to find out the truth.

The honest to god truth.

For anyone in the UK:

A programme detailing the events following an eruption in Iceland in
the 18 century will be being shown on BBC 2 at 9 pm (Friday, 19th
January.)

No doubt in keeping with the generally lowbrow presentation that that
service is becoming infamous for these days, the chemistry in it will
be shaky to say the least. (For the record, there is no such thing as
an acid made of sulphur dioxide and water.)



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