On Oct 6, 2:48 am, Jo Schaper
wrote:

On Oct 5, 5:56 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Any idea if the grape vines and orange groves in Los Angeles are in a
bad way? Not that that would persuade some people, even if they are
perfectly healthy.

Even in cuckoo California, the prevailing winds are from the west to the
east. Anyone looked at the Mojave Desert (garden spot of the universe)
lately?

Seriously -- if you need a painless introduction to the subject, I
suggest the song "Acid Rain" by the Austin Lounge Lizards.

...Acid rain, keep on fallin
While her name I am callin
I walk the shores of Lake Champlain
in the placid acid rain.

Walked together through the forest full of dying trees
Tasted the sulfuric acid on the April breeze
Went canoeing on the lake, the fish were floating by
She read me her manifesto; I had no reply..."
http://www.amazon.com/Highway-Damned.../dp/B00001NFFO

I wonder what causes it.

It's obviously not air pollution. Any ideas?

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
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On Oct 3, 12:06 pm, Nosterill wrote:
On Oct 3, 10:57 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:



On Oct 3, 12:35 am, "RyderCup&PrezCupSux"

wrote:
Hello,

I know that most volcano movies are crap as far as real science is
concerned. I have a question about one specific scenario in "Dante's
Peak".
Some people get trapped in a metallic boat on an acidic lake. Boat
starts
dissolving as it is proceeding on the lake and water starts to come
into
the boat. The propellers dissolve in the acidic water stranding the
boat in
the lake.

How realistic, if at all, is that scenario?



IT IS VERY REAL, I was at Spirit Lake in Washington during the 18, May, 1980
eruption of St. Helens. We had decided to go water skiing that day and were
completely unware of the impending danger. As I was skiing behind a 2000HP
boat, the mountain exploded in a massive shower of debris that would melt
the bull**** of off George Bush's arse. The guy who was driving the boat
(Pete) immediately hit the supersonic button and we reached a spead of
around 888MPH Given the temperature outside, it was fast enough to reach
sonic speed. Shortly after (seconds actually) I heard a loud sonic boom and
at the same time, felt hot ash and debris under my feet, my water skies were
no longer there, they had melted. At the same time, the boat started
disolving and Pete hit the water at a somewhat slower rate, perhaps 500MPH.
We both tumbled and skidded for about 500 yards before grabbing a log and
riding it down into the valley to safety.

There is an important lesson to be learned here, do not go water skiing, on
a lake, near a large volcano that is about to explode. We were both treated
in the local hospital and released that same day with pain pills and 2nd
degree burns (and lots of spinters from the logs.) I still have a scar on
my back and a spinter in my arse that can't be reached. Good day mate, and
keep asking stupid questions, your BS is mildly amusing in a rather mundane
group.


Beware of Dante,

X



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On Oct 4, 9:13 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Scientists have uncovered thousands of marine
microbes -- including never-before-seen bacteria -- thriving deep in
the sea near cracks in the Earth's crust where warm fluids and cold
sea water mix, U.S. researchers said on Wednesday.

Huber and colleagues at the University of Washington's Joint Institute
for the Study of Atmosphere and Ocean took samples from two
hydrothermal vents on the Pacific deep-sea volcano, Axial Seamount.

"You've got hot fluids that have things in it like hydrogen gas and
sulfur, which are not things you find in abundance in regular sea
water. They're mixing with this cold, oxygen-rich sea water.

http://www.reuters.com/article/scien...41498020071004

However, he said acid consumption -- it takes 40 kilograms of acid to
mine 1 kilogram of uranium -- is a long-term problem for the mining
industry.

The company now expects to produce 2.1 million pounds of uranium this
year and 4.6 million pounds in 2008. Production is also being crimped
by delays in commissioning equipment at the Dominion Reefs plant in
South Africa.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt...30862220071115