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17th December 10:17 and we are starting with a clean slate.

No major earthquakes and no major tropical storms. Low pressure
brackets the US and a number of Highs sit over the continent.

On the Atlantic chart very high pressure extends into Britain from
Scandinavia.and a couple of low systems extend southwards over the
North Atlantic Ridge form Greenland. Looks like volcanic activity is
going to dominate this spell.

You may wish to compare and keep an eye on hehttp://
http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/us...ontent=archive
and this one for fear of tornadic stuff:
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/wwa/

Previous similar spells:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgx44d4z_4hhz974mx

2002

10 to 17 Jul 2002 10:26*

1 to 8 Aug 2002 10:22

15 to 22 Aug 2002 10:12*
22 31 Aug 2002 22:29

Name Identifier Basin Start/End Date 10-minute MSW (knots)

Chata'an 08W NWP 28 June 11 July Cat 2 95
Rammasun 09W NWP 28 June 06 July Cat 2 85
Halong 10W NWP 07 July 16 July Cat 2 85
Fengshen 12W NWP 14 July 27 July Cat 3 100
Fung-wong 14W NWP 20 July 27 July Cat 1 75
Phanfone 19W NWP 11 21 August Cat 2 85

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...02/august.html
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...ification.html

Saffir-Simpson Scale

Cat One: 64-82 knots.

Cat Two: 83-95 knots.

Cat Three: 96-113 knots.

Cat Four: 114-135 knots.

Cat Five: Winds greater than 135 knots.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshs.shtml


Basin name abbreviations:-
NWP : North-West Pacific (west of 180°E)
NEP : North-East Pacific (east of 180°E)
NAT : North Atlantic
NI : North Indian (west of Malay Peninsula)
SWI : South-West Indian (west of 90°E)
AUS : Australian (east of 90°E)

1-minute MSW: Maximum sustained wind (knots) averaged over 1 minute
(JTWC Hawaii, NHC Miami, CPHC Hawaii)
10-minute MSW: Maximum sustained wind (knots) averaged over 10 minutes
(JMA Japan, southern hemisphere RSMCs and TCWCs)

2003

18 to 25 Jan 2003 10:48
No tropical storms reported he
http://www.gdacs.org/cyclones/
Seems to have been a period of weak fronts according to:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...tart=3000&sa=N

But there were a couple of large quakes. So it's worth looking closer:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...OScOLOIA&hl=en

01 02 03 10:48

18 03 03 10:34
30 Dec 2003 to 7 Jan 2004 10:03
Some sleet and snow with a lot of overcast by the look of things
hehttp://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...wse_frm/month/
2004-01
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Oops, silly me, I forgot the cross post.

On Dec 17, 12:01 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
17th December 10:17 and we are starting with a clean slate.

No major earthquakes and no major tropical storms. Low pressure
brackets the US and a number of Highs sit over the continent.

On the Atlantic chart very high pressure extends into Britain from
Scandinavia.and a couple of low systems extend southwards over the
North Atlantic Ridge form Greenland. Looks like volcanic activity is
going to dominate this spell.

You may wish to compare and keep an eye on hehttp://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/us...ontent=archive
and this one for fear of tornadic stuff:http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/wwa/

Previous similar spells:http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgx44d4z_4hhz974mx

2002

10 to 17 Jul 2002 10:26*

1 to 8 Aug 2002 10:22

15 to 22 Aug 2002 10:12*
22 31 Aug 2002 22:29

Name Identifier Basin Start/End Date 10-minute MSW (knots)

Chata'an 08W NWP 28 June 11 July Cat 2 95
Rammasun 09W NWP 28 June 06 July Cat 2 85
Halong 10W NWP 07 July 16 July Cat 2 85
Fengshen 12W NWP 14 July 27 July Cat 3 100
Fung-wong 14W NWP 20 July 27 July Cat 1 75
Phanfone 19W NWP 11 21 August Cat 2 85

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...ification.html

Saffir-Simpson Scale

Cat One: 64-82 knots.

Cat Two: 83-95 knots.

Cat Three: 96-113 knots.

Cat Four: 114-135 knots.

Cat Five: Winds greater than 135 knots.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshs.shtml

Basin name abbreviations:-
NWP : North-West Pacific (west of 180°E)
NEP : North-East Pacific (east of 180°E)
NAT : North Atlantic
NI : North Indian (west of Malay Peninsula)
SWI : South-West Indian (west of 90°E)
AUS : Australian (east of 90°E)

1-minute MSW: Maximum sustained wind (knots) averaged over 1 minute
(JTWC Hawaii, NHC Miami, CPHC Hawaii)
10-minute MSW: Maximum sustained wind (knots) averaged over 10 minutes
(JMA Japan, southern hemisphere RSMCs and TCWCs)

2003

18 to 25 Jan 2003 10:48
No tropical storms reported hehttp://www.gdacs.org/cyclones/
Seems to have been a period of weak fronts according to:http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...m/month/2003-1...

But there were a couple of large quakes. So it's worth looking closer:http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...OScOLOIA&hl=en

01 02 03 10:48

18 03 03 10:34
30 Dec 2003 to 7 Jan 2004 10:03
Some sleet and snow with a lot of overcast by the look of things
hehttp://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...wse_frm/month/
2004-01


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On Dec 17, 4:02 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Oops, silly me, I forgot the cross post.

On Dec 17, 12:01 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

17th December 10:17 and we are starting with a clean slate.


No major earthquakes and no major tropical storms. Low pressure
brackets the US and a number of Highs sit over the continent.


On the Atlantic chart very high pressure extends into Britain from
Scandinavia.and a couple of low systems extend southwards over the
North Atlantic Ridge form Greenland. Looks like volcanic activity is
going to dominate this spell.


You may wish to compare and keep an eye on hehttp://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/us...ontent=archive
and this one for fear of tornadic stuff:http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/wwa/


Previous similar spells:http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgx44d4z_4hhz974mx


2002


10 to 17 Jul 2002 10:26*


1 to 8 Aug 2002 10:22


15 to 22 Aug 2002 10:12*
22 31 Aug 2002 22:29


Name Identifier Basin Start/End Date 10-minute MSW (knots)


Chata'an 08W NWP 28 June 11 July Cat 2 95
Rammasun 09W NWP 28 June 06 July Cat 2 85
Halong 10W NWP 07 July 16 July Cat 2 85
Fengshen 12W NWP 14 July 27 July Cat 3 100
Fung-wong 14W NWP 20 July 27 July Cat 1 75
Phanfone 19W NWP 11 21 August Cat 2 85


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...ulletins/2002/...


Saffir-Simpson Scale


Cat One: 64-82 knots.


Cat Two: 83-95 knots.


Cat Three: 96-113 knots.


Cat Four: 114-135 knots.


Cat Five: Winds greater than 135 knots.


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshs.shtml


Basin name abbreviations:-
NWP : North-West Pacific (west of 180°E)
NEP : North-East Pacific (east of 180°E)
NAT : North Atlantic
NI : North Indian (west of Malay Peninsula)
SWI : South-West Indian (west of 90°E)
AUS : Australian (east of 90°E)


1-minute MSW: Maximum sustained wind (knots) averaged over 1 minute
(JTWC Hawaii, NHC Miami, CPHC Hawaii)
10-minute MSW: Maximum sustained wind (knots) averaged over 10 minutes
(JMA Japan, southern hemisphere RSMCs and TCWCs)


2003


18 to 25 Jan 2003 10:48
No tropical storms reported hehttp://www.gdacs.org/cyclones/
Seems to have been a period of weak fronts according to:http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...m/month/2003-1...


But there were a couple of large quakes. So it's worth looking closer:http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...OScOLOIA&hl=en


01 02 03 10:48


18 03 03 10:34
30 Dec 2003 to 7 Jan 2004 10:03
Some sleet and snow with a lot of overcast by the look of things
hehttp://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...wse_frm/month/
2004-01


I took care of that for you and did a re-post crossing it to most all
of the
alt. newsgroups. Don't bother to thanks me I'd have done the same for
anybody
as silly as you claimed to be -- who forgot to cross post.
It's a standard alternative anybody would do given the motivation,
time and prodding.

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On Dec 17, 5:47 pm, Saint Isadore Patron Saint of the Internet
wrote:
On Dec 17, 4:02 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

Oops, silly me, I forgot the cross post.


I took care of that for you and did a re-post crossing it to most all
of the alt. newsgroups.
Don't bother to thanks me I'd have done the same for anybody
as silly as you claimed to be.


I grasped most of what you meant to say above but would like further
information about the following:

It's a standard alternative anybody would do given the motivation,
time and prodding.


**********

Meanwhile on planet ZOG:
http://weather.unisys.com/ is pretty much what is to be expected as a
standard model in mid winter in the absence of much else happening.

UNLESS...
That really deep low over Labrador/Newfoundland, when it falls over
the edge of the world, causes something interesting.

The durability of such a set up -or any set up in the circumstances
outlined, tends to affirm the correctness of my call.

But even if I get it wrong and that could happen, it is early days yet
and it would be a significant improvement in what we have otherwise -
even of what I was doing previously, if as I suspect, I am calling the
shots here as usual.

What a singularly hard blow though, to natives of the new continent it
will be if I am proven correct. A body would wonder WTFTF were up to.

I hope you don't take it too far amiss when, on my success, I enjoin
you to eat my **** on "all of the alt. newsgroups" that you posted to.
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On Dec 17, 6:44 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

http://weather.unisys.com/ is pretty much what is to be expected as a
standard model in mid winter in the absence of much else happening.

UNLESS...
That really deep low over Labrador/Newfoundland, when it falls over
the edge of the world, causes something interesting.


The deep Atlantic Lows have to go north into the Arctic to ground at
Russia. One off east Greenland is 986 mb, only some 8 or 9 degrees on
a great circle from the High (1045) off Lapland,
http://www.westwind.ch/?link=ukmb,ht...racknell+13 2

Look how deep the one just off Canada is. Bloody Americans!

It's going straight for Greenland, like the last one and that too will
probably head into the Arctic warming the ice up nicely.

I'd got the impression that Arctic winds went east to west. Perhaps
that is only for the stuff that behaves normally?

So, despite the large pressure differences, a negative oscillation.

And more volcanic activity than usual. I think I am on the ball at the
moment.

All I need is proof.




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On Dec 18, 11:21 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Dec 17, 6:44 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

http://weather.unisys.com/is pretty much what is to be expected as a
standard model in mid winter in the absence of much else happening.


UNLESS...
That really deep low over Labrador/Newfoundland, when it falls over
the edge of the world, causes something interesting.


7.2 (preliminary magnitude.) This time of a phase is unstable. Doubly
so. Anything around 10 or 4 o'clock is hard to predict but being
almost 20 minutes past, for some reason I can't even guess at, is even
harder to clock.

The deep Atlantic Lows have to go north into the Arctic to ground at
Russia. One off east Greenland is 986 mb, only some 8 or 9 degrees on
a great circle from the High (1045) off Lapland,http://www.westwind.ch/?link=ukmb,ht...e/Fax/,.gif,br...

Look how deep the one just off Canada is. Bloody Americans!

It's going straight for Greenland, like the last one and that too will
probably head into the Arctic warming the ice up nicely.

I'd got the impression that Arctic winds went east to west. Perhaps
that is only for the stuff that behaves normally?

So, despite the large pressure differences, a negative oscillation.

And more volcanic activity than usual. I think I am on the ball at the
moment.

All I need is proof.


A 1032 mb High has just slipped into the sea of the east coast of the
USA.
Not volcanic after all.

MAP 7.2 2007/12/19 09:30:31 51.495 -179.473 56.3 ANDREANOF
ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN IS., ALASKA
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_big.php

Though in about 8 days time I might have a correction. Look at all the
"H"s on
http://weather.unisys.com/
They are lined up almost north to south in 3 sets.

And look at that collection of Lows on the Atlantic map:
http://meteonet.nl/aktueel/brackall.htm
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On Dec 17, 6:44 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Me glad me not him
On Dec 17, 5:47 pm, Saint Isadore Patron Saint of snip

Meanwhile on planet ZOG:


As far as looking at the USA map and for that matter High Pressure,
this stuff is as new to me as it is to you lot.

One of the first things I noticed decades ago was that the weather in
the North Atlantic held severe Lows off almost as if "at bay" fending
them off until their appointed time. I was working with microfiches of
daily newspapers in public libraries. All I had available to me then.

I began to suspect that a force was building up, for I could see that
when the Low went ashore usually at Norway or Scotland there was
either a severe earthquake or reports of some other terrible thing in
the same papers.

The only other data I had access to was the weather reports on the
radio. They used to be excellent and I could do wonderful things with
them even then.
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...a441128acfa9e9

I was also working on astronomical stuff about the moon and etc., at
the same time. Trying to fit it all in. Obviously they are going to
tell me the same thing if they are related. In fact all earthquake
forecasting methods must have a lot in common no matter how far from
obvious that commonality is.

But air pressure is dispersed throughout the columns and there is no
real weight above or below normal on the earth itself. If there is,
what is it? 50 millibars either side of average? Call it 100mb or 35
inches in a column of mercury that could reach 32 inches.

What's that? 5/32 of about 15 lbs per square inch. More than that
falls on the earth with a heavy shower. More than that; -hundreds of
times more, with each tide. But tides come in and out regularly.

Quakes are not regular are they? And on top of the tides lie the
waves. Imagine the weight travelling across the planet on each swell.
Some of them 40 and 50 feet high. (Accompanied by 40 and 50 foot
troughs.)

I don't like to assert a cause when I plainly don't know exactly what
is happening. But I am pretty sure it is not air pressure or tides.

But even if I get it wrong and that could happen, it is early days yet

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On Dec 17, 12:01 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
17th December 10:17 and we are starting with a clean slate.

No major earthquakes and no major tropical storms. Low pressure
brackets the US and a number of Highs sit over the continent.

On the Atlantic chart very high pressure extends into Britain from
Scandinavia.and a couple of low systems extend southwards over the
North Atlantic Ridge form Greenland. Looks like volcanic activity is
going to dominate this spell.

You may wish to compare and keep an eye on hehttp://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/us...ontent=archive


This might turn out to prescient:
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ng...-marshall.html

No other news on volcanoes so far. But then, the Smithsonian is about
2 weeks late in producing what limited information it can get hold of.
And there is no one lese doing it unless you know which region's group
to look up.

(Which links are to be found in their site given above.)

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On Dec 18, 9:55 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

No other news on volcanoes so far. But then, the Smithsonian is about
2 weeks late in producing what limited information it can get hold of.
And there is no one else doing it unless you know which region's group
to look up.


Re-reading that, it does look like an intended slight. I don't believe
that was my intent. The fact remains that the coverage of volcanic
activity leaves a fair bit to be desired.

Unfortunately the sump that modern science finds itself in consists
mostly of of a pit it seems to have dug itself and then head dived
straight into.

Anyway, back in the day...
Planet Zog Archive:

Scientists who study dust storms have long known that Saharan dust can
travel all the way across the Atlantic to the Americas. Asian dust,
however, must travel much farther to reach the same destination. In
April 2001, researchers watched with surprise as dust from an Asian
storm crossed the Pacific reaching as far east as the Great Lakes and
even Maryland.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/New...3?img_id=17874

Get that? Long known!

Not like the slap I got for suggesting the same thing was the source
of the dust in Andean ice cores a few years back. As if I never
bothered to try finding out what these guys have "long known".

But I digress, here's the interesting bit:

"In early April of 2001 a strong temperate cyclone spun counter-
clockwise over China, pushing a wall of dust as it moved."

1st April 2001. 10:49:
No major earthquakes
1 major tropical storm:

WALTER Basin: AUS (SE Pacific) Start date: 02.04.2001
Maximum sustained wind: 80 knots End date: 08.04.2001
That's a Cat 1 cyclone on the Saffir Simpson scale. Close but no real
effect, as far as I know.

And several smaller ones (60 knots)
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...001/april.html
None of these were even on the Saffir Simpson scale.

Half an hour from the time of phase which is the main subject of this
thread. Another 10 minutes and it was a full blown anticyclone for the
UK. But you'd never guess, looking at this:
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/tkfaxbraar.htm

Talking of dust storms and dark skies:
26 March First quarter at 10:33 and Passover, Full Moon (at 14:51) 3rd
April 33 CE. There was a quake then though but that was after the full
moon thus occurring on the day of ....

Oof.. it's 4 am and I need sleep before I try deciphering what time
the full moon took place in Jerusalem local time, 2000 years ago.
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