That major quake in Szechuan China some weeks ago occurred with quite
a spate of tornadoes in the USA. This led me to suspect that there is
a relationship with them.

Some years ago I noticed a relationship with my (mild) arthritis and
earthquakes, then storms in Madagasgar then tornadoes in the USA. I
get crick of discomfort from a cycling injury a long time ago.

For some reason I thought I could "get" when there was a spate of
tornadoes as they were a given with attacks of cramp.

So here I am now looking at the relationship between Californian
quakes, USA's Mid Western tornadoes and Chinese earthquakes. There are
no reports of tornadoes in the USA at the moment. In fact there is a
marked paucity of the weather related to them:

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/080801_rpts.html

What there is is this:
5.8 08/01 32.0 104.7 SICHUAN-GANSU BORDER REGION, CHINA

On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:09:18 -0700 (PDT), Weatherlawyer
wrote:

That major quake in Szechuan China some weeks ago occurred with quite
a spate of tornadoes in the USA. This led me to suspect that there is
a relationship with them.

Some years ago I noticed a relationship with my (mild) arthritis and
earthquakes, then storms in Madagasgar then tornadoes in the USA. I
get crick of discomfort from a cycling injury a long time ago.

For some reason I thought I could "get" when there was a spate of
tornadoes as they were a given with attacks of cramp.

So here I am now looking at the relationship between Californian
quakes, USA's Mid Western tornadoes and Chinese earthquakes. There are
no reports of tornadoes in the USA at the moment. In fact there is a
marked paucity of the weather related to them:

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/080801_rpts.html

What there is is this:
5.8 08/01 32.0 104.7 SICHUAN-GANSU BORDER REGION, CHINA
I damn near flunked statistics, but I thought that correlations were
never proof of causation for anything - no matter how much you
correlate.

On Aug 1, 6:55 pm, starrin wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:09:18 -0700 (PDT), Weatherlawyer
wrote:

That major quake in Szechuan China some weeks ago, occurred with quite
a spate of tornadoes in the USA. This led me to suspect that there is
a relationship with them.

Some years ago I noticed a relationship with arthritis and
earthquakes, then storms in Madagasgar then tornadoes in the USA.

For some reason I thought I could "get" when there was a spate of
tornadoes as they were a "given" with attacks of cramp.

So here I am now, looking at the relationship between Californian
quakes, USA's Mid Western tornadoes and Chinese earthquakes. There are
no reports of tornadoes in the USA at the moment. In fact there is a
marked paucity of the weather related to them:

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/080801_rpts.html

What there is is this:
5.8 M. 08/01. 32.0 N. 104.7 E. CHINA

I damn near flunked statistics but I thought that correlations were
never proof of causation for anything - no matter how much you
correlate.

And that is why I am not interested in Laws and Proofs that only serve
to break the minds of youngsters that should be out in god's good
earth earning a living and having money in their pockets.

All I am trying to do is point out obvious flaws in the concepts,
beliefs and theories the unwary follow as though there is some
religious providence in them, instead of being prepared for the worst
when it looks like the planet is Going Postal.

As it happens I started doing this because there was a religious
controversy brewing in the New Russia when one of the satellite
states in it had suffered a devastating earthquake.

I was thinking people would be writing that off as an act of god
(whilst the BBC was carefully only reporting which religious
denomination got provenance for a thousand years of sheep shearing.)

The woefully inadequate help the Azerbaijani's received went on not
happening for years. But worst of all was the quake happened in a
wintery spell when the homeless survivors could have used the shelter
that neither so called Christian church was offering.

Take a look at this chart and tell me if there is a relationship with
the Highs and Lows reaching into the North Atlantic from the Carolinas
and the number of low intensity earthquakes occurring on the other
side of North America:
http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensem...me=00&Type=pnm

I can't remember which it is supposed to be Highs or Lows and it will
mean me search my computer for the graphics I saved, before I can find
out. Blow that.

I can wait for the next installment.

I think you can find archives of these charts and of course the NEIC
list is intimately searchable. (Nothing like the state of the art in
Exitdoor.)

All I am offering is a short-hand way of looking at things that are
just as meaningful as watching a weather forecast is in foretelling
the situation in your region. YMWV!

It is beyond statistical analysis. It's easier to Zen it and just give
QEDs pudding ate that way.

However, long term data analysis will throw up interesting bell
curves.

Here is another one:
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/efs.html

The North Atlantic chart from there is giving a different picture of
events altogether from the one on he
http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm

When the charts vary remarkably, when meteorologists are wrong or
unsure of their forecasts, then be sure that a severe earthquake is
pending. You usually get a few days to prepare.

There is almost always time to purchase a can for water (keep it half
full for fear compression will burst it) a mobile phone (keep it
topped up as the lines will blank initially) a whistle (keep it on a
lanyard around your neck) and a pick and shovel (for digging your
neighbours out of an hole or for digging an hole for disposing of your
waste.)

And there is usually time for people like me to make predictions about
them. This spell has changed from that mind-wipingly muggy one we just
had. Whether it is supposed to be a damp fresh "not all that
unpleasant" spell, I can't say.

If it isn't, the quake will arrive mid-spell, as it rights itself. If
things are plodding on nicely, the quake will arrive at the end of the
synergy. That is when all the parts of the syndrome synergise.
Afterwards, you will see the Low in the North Atlantic has faded away
or moved half a continent.

Whether I am deluding myself or am being blessed by a most remarkable
"being" remains to be seen. I am not dying to find out if I don't have
to. (Hope dei, die I ex all.)

Well that's enough of me being cleva. Time to get out in the garden.
Byee.

On Aug 2, 11:36 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

Take a look at this chart and tell me if there is a relationship with
the Highs and Lows reaching into the North Atlantic from the Carolinas
and the number of low intensity earthquakes occurring on the other
side of North America: http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensem...our=0&Day=0&Ru...

I can't remember which it is supposed to be Highs or Lows and it will
mean me search my computer for the graphics I saved, before I can find
out. Blow that.

Who care which one it is? What if it turns out to be both? Me saying
the worng one just means I am lackadaisical. Would I be thus if I were
in a position of authority?

Who cares? I don't believe I am in any responsible post, touched by
god or not. I don't want anyone to die, that's the main thing. As it
happens I don't think anyone reads my stuff with the diligence it
deserves.

But then I believe half the people in a sophisticated continent voted
for a monkey, so what do I know?

But what was I expecting? A pension and a medal?
Me?

Who from?
A science body?
A politician?

What could either of those offer me? I happen to have everything I
could possibly want from them. They leave me the hell alone!

On Aug 2, 11:36*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Aug 1, 6:55 pm, starrin wrote:





On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:09:18 -0700 (PDT), Weatherlawyer
wrote:


When the charts vary remarkably, when meteorologists are wrong or
unsure of their forecasts, then be sure that a severe earthquake is
pending. You usually get a few days to prepare.

Byee.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Back again? So; now you can use the North Atlantic weather charts to
predict a "major" earthquake, W.

In W-speak, 2 points. Firstly, the weather charts are not "varying
remarkably", they are pretty well set that we will have low pressure
dominance in 8-10 days time. You don't follow those charts closely
enough and you know little about them, so it's not surprising you
don't know that. That's got nothing to do with the actual outcome,
it's just what they've shown for about 36 hours - consistency.
(However, please don't use your lack of knowledge as an escape route,
at the end of next week, if a "major" earthquake hasn't happened. Your
statement clearly states that they ARE "varying remarkably", at
present.)

Secondly; the North Atlantic occupies only about 10% of the Earth's
surface area; much less if you don't include the tropical areas. Why
should that partiicular area be so important?

Thirdly; no location, no area, no intensity in this forecast of a
"major" earthquake, as usual. I'll be generous and give you a full
week, even though you say that people "have a few days" to prepare,
but I'll expect an earthquake of 7.5+ to qualify for "major". The
earthquake can occur anywhere in the world.

Fourthly; if this link is strong, why couldn't you predict Sichuan?
And why habve you missed every other large earthquake and volcanic
eruption of this year?

I'll judge it at outcome and pass comment on how scientific your
statement was then. Good luck.

I was wondering whether the dying back of my aunt Flos purple sprouting
broccolli and the recent tidal wave in Abu Dhabi were connected, the
explanation of other events from the weatherlawyer makes you think donnit
.......


RonB

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
...
On Aug 1, 6:55 pm, starrin wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:09:18 -0700 (PDT), Weatherlawyer
wrote:

That major quake in Szechuan China some weeks ago, occurred with quite
a spate of tornadoes in the USA. This led me to suspect that there is
a relationship with them.

Some years ago I noticed a relationship with arthritis and
earthquakes, then storms in Madagasgar then tornadoes in the USA.

For some reason I thought I could "get" when there was a spate of
tornadoes as they were a "given" with attacks of cramp.

So here I am now, looking at the relationship between Californian
quakes, USA's Mid Western tornadoes and Chinese earthquakes. There are
no reports of tornadoes in the USA at the moment. In fact there is a
marked paucity of the weather related to them:

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/080801_rpts.html

What there is is this:
5.8 M. 08/01. 32.0 N. 104.7 E. CHINA

I damn near flunked statistics but I thought that correlations were
never proof of causation for anything - no matter how much you
correlate.

And that is why I am not interested in Laws and Proofs that only serve
to break the minds of youngsters that should be out in god's good
earth earning a living and having money in their pockets.

All I am trying to do is point out obvious flaws in the concepts,
beliefs and theories the unwary follow as though there is some
religious providence in them, instead of being prepared for the worst
when it looks like the planet is Going Postal.

As it happens I started doing this because there was a religious
controversy brewing in the New Russia when one of the satellite
states in it had suffered a devastating earthquake.

I was thinking people would be writing that off as an act of god
(whilst the BBC was carefully only reporting which religious
denomination got provenance for a thousand years of sheep shearing.)

The woefully inadequate help the Azerbaijani's received went on not
happening for years. But worst of all was the quake happened in a
wintery spell when the homeless survivors could have used the shelter
that neither so called Christian church was offering.

Take a look at this chart and tell me if there is a relationship with
the Highs and Lows reaching into the North Atlantic from the Carolinas
and the number of low intensity earthquakes occurring on the other
side of North America:
http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensem...me=00&Type=pnm

I can't remember which it is supposed to be Highs or Lows and it will
mean me search my computer for the graphics I saved, before I can find
out. Blow that.

I can wait for the next installment.

I think you can find archives of these charts and of course the NEIC
list is intimately searchable. (Nothing like the state of the art in
Exitdoor.)

All I am offering is a short-hand way of looking at things that are
just as meaningful as watching a weather forecast is in foretelling
the situation in your region. YMWV!

It is beyond statistical analysis. It's easier to Zen it and just give
QEDs pudding ate that way.

However, long term data analysis will throw up interesting bell
curves.

Here is another one:
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/efs.html

The North Atlantic chart from there is giving a different picture of
events altogether from the one on he
http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm

When the charts vary remarkably, when meteorologists are wrong or
unsure of their forecasts, then be sure that a severe earthquake is
pending. You usually get a few days to prepare.

There is almost always time to purchase a can for water (keep it half
full for fear compression will burst it) a mobile phone (keep it
topped up as the lines will blank initially) a whistle (keep it on a
lanyard around your neck) and a pick and shovel (for digging your
neighbours out of an hole or for digging an hole for disposing of your
waste.)

And there is usually time for people like me to make predictions about
them. This spell has changed from that mind-wipingly muggy one we just
had. Whether it is supposed to be a damp fresh "not all that
unpleasant" spell, I can't say.

If it isn't, the quake will arrive mid-spell, as it rights itself. If
things are plodding on nicely, the quake will arrive at the end of the
synergy. That is when all the parts of the syndrome synergise.
Afterwards, you will see the Low in the North Atlantic has faded away
or moved half a continent.

Whether I am deluding myself or am being blessed by a most remarkable
"being" remains to be seen. I am not dying to find out if I don't have
to. (Hope dei, die I ex all.)

Well that's enough of me being cleva. Time to get out in the garden.
Byee.

On Aug 2, 1:12 pm, Dawlish wrote:
So; now you can use the North Atlantic weather charts to
predict a "major" earthquake.

Skipped foolishness. I see no point in getting invlved with peple who
willfully decide on mischief. It only detracts from my own composure.

Any latecomers can see for themselves if they are different or not:
http://groups.msn.com/Weatherlore/sh...hoto&PhotoID=3

As it happens, the overall scope is different in the the US chart
compared to the UK one. There is less human input in the US one for
one thing. No doubt the met officers working on them are not phased by
things.

So no quake just yet. The big one will come though. I didn't call it a
syndrome because of a fluke.

Several interesting pictures came up in the collection on the UK
charts I collected. One of them is the rotation of the three Lows in
the region just west of Britain during the last spell.

If you bother to peruse a set covering the last week or two, you will
see what I mean. WetterZentrale has an archive of them. Otherwise it
is a long drag down the motorway. (What stupid fool thought that one
up? Margaret Thatcher?)

Follow the 1016 mb line in the US chart. Why does it do that? Why
don't highs bleed into lows with more fluidity?

*******

As for the ability to forecast earthquakes from such charts, take a
look at the Low off the Hebrides for the spell that ran from the 18th
to the 25th of July. On the 22nd, it was in Greece (and Bertha was
across Iceland) by and large there seemed to be a radical change in
the cartoon.

It might be worth searching whatever databases, to compare the
Atlantic chart with any records of Japanese quakes of Magnitude 5 or
more. IIRC, we are about the same distance globally from Japan as the
confluence off Cape Hatteras is from the various Chilean and Aleutian
quakes that occur in that centre's remit.

I can remember when I started searching for answers, listening to the
BBC's Shipping Bulletins (before the clowns there improved it John
Birt and Margaret Thatcherism again IIRATAA) and finding the Lows off
the Hebrides have a cathartic effect on British weather as far as it
affected me in those days.

It seems to have come full circle with the fluidity that these things
have in the lives of us touched. Hebridean Lows and Japanese
earthquakes. Possibly...
I'll post a list of speculations later.

On Aug 2, 6:42 pm, "ronaldbutton" wrote:
Top posting removed for clarity and the extraneous material deleted.

You little sweetie.

On Aug 2, 7:51 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

As for the ability to forecast earthquakes from such charts, take a
look at the Low off the Hebrides for the spell that ran from the 18th
to the 25th of July. On the 22nd, it was in Greece (and Bertha was
across Iceland) by and large there seemed to be a radical change in
the cartoon.

It might be worth searching whatever databases, to compare the
Atlantic chart with any records of Japanese quakes of Magnitude 5 or
more. IIRC, we are about the same distance globally from Japan as the
confluence off Cape Hatteras is from the various Chilean and Aleutian
quakes that occur in that centre's remit.

I'll post a list of speculations later.

22/07/08

63.44N 150.13W 2.7 CENTRAL ALASKA
60.12N 153.14W 2.5 SOUTHERN ALASKA

21/07/08

18.97N 66.56W 2.8 PUERTO RICO REGION
18.71N 66.53W 3.4 PUERTO RICO REGION
21.28N 121.15E 4.6 TAIWAN REGION
21.26N 121.17E 4.8 TAIWAN REGION
37.21N 142.06E 6.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
37.86N 142.50E 5.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

Obvious ones. The pairs arrive at the end of a Low-life so to speak.
Here is the whole shootin shebang:

22/07/08
TONGA
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC REGION
EASTERN XIZANG-INDIA BORDER REGION
ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION
SOUTHERN ALASKA
HINDU KUSH REGION, AFGHANISTAN
SOUTH OF THE FIJI ISLANDS
OFF THE COAST OF OREGON
SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
SOUTHERN IDAHO
VIRGIN ISLANDS REGION
OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
TONGA
VIRGIN ISLANDS REGION
TONGA
CENTRAL ALASKA
SOUTHERN ALASKA
KOMANDORSKIYE OSTROVA REGION
KENAI PENINSULA, ALASKA
TAJIKISTAN
PUERTO RICO

21/07/08
OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
CENTRAL ALASKA
BONIN ISLANDS, JAPAN REGION
VIRGIN ISLANDS REGION
PUERTO RICO REGION
TONGA REGION
PUERTO RICO REGION
PUERTO RICO REGION
SPAIN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
VIRGIN ISLANDS REGION
SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION
TAIWAN REGION
TAIWAN REGION
OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
SAN JUAN, ARGENTINA
VALPARAISO, CHILE

A compass arc from the pressure centres showing on any particular
date, will join the ones of import for a particular High or Low.

In article ,
"ronaldbutton" wrote:

I was wondering whether the dying back of my aunt Flos purple sprouting
broccolli and the recent tidal wave in Abu Dhabi were connected, the
explanation of other events from the weatherlawyer makes you think donnit

Nawww. The trees on the hill behind where I live were waving back and
forth a lot. That seems to have caused a bit of a wind around here, and
that's what led to the stuff you're talking about.

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