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23rd to 30th August 2008 23:50.

This is an easy one. Overcast with mists or drizzle rather than rain.
And as it will have an hurricane in it too that will modify the spell
for the UK to 1 hour back for each increase in hurricane strength.

So how much is the change value from nothing to hurricane? Can I take
5 M as a stasis?

And even a cat 5 storm requires stasis.

So.. I don't know. I will have to boil that one in the bag for a night
or so.
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On Aug 22, 10:16*pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
23rd to 30th August 2008 23:50.

This is an easy one. Overcast with mists or drizzle rather than rain.
And as it will have an hurricane in it too that will modify the spell
for the UK to 1 hour back for each increase in hurricane strength.

So how much is the change value from nothing to hurricane? Can I take
5 M as a stasis?

And even a cat 5 storm requires stasis.

So.. I don't know. I will have to boil that one in the bag for a night
or so.


Oh, fiddle!

I said I was hopless at remembering things.

You'd think I'd get the spell we are in right though wouldn't you?

Recap, then:

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Looks like that's it for this spell. New one tomorrow. Should have a
North Atlantic Hurricane in it. Look out for some long pauses on the
NEIC site.


And let's see if I can guess where the quakes will be. Japan and ....
nope can't remember. Greece?


Meanwhile here is warning of a stormer:
5.3 M. 24th; 05:24. 33.2 S. 179.4 W. South of the Kermadec Islands.
5.2 M. 22nd; 21:03. 8.4 S. 74.3 W. Central Peru.

Let's see an 18 hour gap gets it up to around hurricane strength. I
will guess that another 3 hours each for the next categories.

That makes 18 + 14 hours.
A Cat 5 if ever there was.

Pity about the swarm in the Aleutians and the negative North Atlantic.

So, maybe a Cat 3 and another massive-ish eruption from
Kasatochi..

How far is that new tropical storm from the Aleutians? 60 degrees.

***

60 degrees from southern Baja to Kasatochi, Andreanof Islands
52.177°N, 175.508°W.

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It looks like there is a penchant for developing tropical storms to
move inland before they have time to build into hurricanes and
typhoons when the oceanic oscillations are negative.

Tropical storms move inland because they tend to go north when ocean
oscillations tend to be negative.

Tropical storms move out to sea in positive spells, because they tend
to go east or west in those.

The result is that acoustic channeling is driven overland and turns up
as quakes where there are normally few, or swarms where there are
volcanoes.

It knocks the idea of a Coriolis force on its head.

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Negative oceanic oscillations, the so called El Nino / Southern
(Pacific) oscillation and the North AtIantic Oscillation are nothing
more (nor less) than weather spells of the following type:

2008

8 Jan 11:37 6
15 Jan 19:46 2
7 Feb 03:44 4
14 Feb 03:34 4
21 Feb 03:31 4
29 Feb 02:18 2
21 Mar 18:40 6
29 Mar 21:47 4
6 Apr 03:55 4
12 Apr 18:32 6
20 Apr 10:25 4
28 Apr 14:12 2
5 May 12:18 6
12 May 03:47 4
20 May 02:11 2
26 Jun 12:10 6
3 Jul 02:19 2
10 Jul 04:35 4
18 Jul 07:59 2
1 Aug 10:13 4
8 Aug 20:20 2
23 Aug 23:50 6
30 Aug 19:58 2
7 Sept 14:04 2
29 Sept 08:12 2
14 Oct 20:03 2
21 Oct 11:55 6
6 Nov 04:04 4
13 Nov 06:17 6
19 Dec 10:29 4
27 Dec 12:23 6

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001gmt.html

I added the last column. The first are courtesy of Fred Espenak and
the JPL.

The spells for the times of the phases in rows ending with a 2 tend to
produce similar spells of weather to spells that occur when the time
of the phase is at 2 o'clock.

Similarly for rows that end with 4s and 6s. 10:29 for example tends
towards 10 which is the same as spells for 04:00; 10:00; 16:00 and
22:00.

The same might hold true for lunar phases at 10:45 but it is
stretching the thumb that rules. As far as I know each spell is
different or unique in some way but overall they tend to have a common
factor in those three major slots.

***

As of 25th Auguat:
ACTIVE STORMS
07L (Atlantic)
Julio (East Pacific)
Fay (Atlantic)

Isn't 07L following the same course that Fay travelled? And that
reminds me of the track of the last American Pacific tropical before
Julio.

But Fay and whatever occurred on a positive spell (21:17) n unsettled
positive though. Boy this is getting complex.

Posted on Aug 17, 8:49 am
21:16

16th to 23rd August: 21:16.


There is already a Low over the UK. Soon it will be joined by another
from the USA or Canada. That one has already been associated with
some Aleutian quakes when it left the Appalachians / Carolinas.


When it joins up with the stuff over here there will be some rotation
and then it will go to the Baltic.


If it does, then the North Atlantic will go negative again as it did
over the last day or so. The present low pressure some sixty or so
degrees North, thirty degrees West is a low Low;


978 MB is a change in the weather.
Everything else in the N Atlantic is still "negative"....


(I think I meant positive or did I? Something in the dark. I need to
wake up. Ah dear, I get hopelessly tangled up in all this sometimes.)

....Which probably explains whuy the storm Fay is not much more than a
gale.:

ACTIVE STORMS
Fay (Atlantic)
13W (West Pacific)
Vongfong (West Pacific)
Iselle (East Pacific)

Some heavy or at least prolonged rain in Britain. I gather that means
drought west of the main rivers in the USA. I know it means more than
the usual supply of rain for the eastern seaboard there.

***

This is filling most of the Northern North Atlantic.

http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm

A spell like these means the death of two storms or for the massive
reduction in intensity of one of them:

5.1 M. 25th 19:14 30.7 83.5 W. Xizang
5.1 M. 25th 14:16 30.8 83.5 W. Xizang
5.3 M. 25th 13:40 30.8 83.4 W. Xizang
6.3 M. 25th 13:22 30.9 83.6 W. Xizang

Which leaves a door open for anyone interested in researching the
decay of massive tropical storms and the forcasting of earthquakes.

All one needs to do is take note of warnings that the storm is likely
to fade rapidly. And that information is quite readily available over
the internet.
And furthermore it seems to indicate a move frome one type of set-up
to another:

Are we going to be going back to tornadoes or do they refer to the
Tropical Storms broaching in the USA?
Septemberish we get some tornadic stuff don't we?

***

Sci Am Reuters videos of
1. Chinese quakes
http://www.sciam.com/video.cfm?id=D5...885D676F99F0F9

2. Denver tornadoes
http://www.sciam.com/video.cfm?id=9F...3909E8C783EBD2

***

Well, anyhow I tried to put the posts in order. Cracks and all. It's
no good covering them up if I expect anyone to keep up with me.

I know this is all half arsed but I do have a life to live. Personally
I'd rather spend it writing poetry and telling jokes down the pub,
getting rip roaring, singing drunk.

That doesn't happen often these days.

Stuck here with this bloody gift.
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On Aug 27, 5:46*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

This is filling most of the Northern North Atlantic.

http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm


I put a few clips of them on the following links:

http://groups.msn.com/Weatherlore/sh...hoto&PhotoID=9


http://groups.msn.com/Weatherlore/sh...hoto&PhotoID=8


http://groups.msn.com/Weatherlore/sh...oto&PhotoID=10

They are Microsoft servers and thus painfully slow.
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On Aug 27, 6:38*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Aug 27, 5:46*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:



This is filling most of the Northern North Atlantic.


http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm


I put a few clips of them on the following links:

http://groups.msn.com/Weatherlore/sh...howPhoto&Photo....



http://groups.msn.com/Weatherlore/sh...howPhoto&Photo....



http://groups.msn.com/Weatherlore/sh...howPhoto&Photo....



http://groups.msn.com/Weatherlore/sh...oto&PhotoID=12
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There are a significant number of storms developing during this spell
that don't seem capable of development. And they seem to form where
the last one in that sea tracked from.

They don't reach much intensity and they don't stray far from the
shore of a continent.

And there is a significant number of quite large magnitude quakes
scattered over the planet.

And this is the last day of the spell proper as some parts of the
globe get set up for the following spell tomorrow.

The next spell begins in the UK on the 30th. It will be a repeat of
these spells -or their mean, if that is possible:

15 Jan 19:46
29 Feb 02:18
28 Apr 14:12
20 May 02:11
3 July 02:19
18 Jul 07:59
8 Aug 20:20
30 Aug 19:58
7 Sept 14:04
29 Sept 08:12
14 Oct 20:03

The next spell is at almost exactly 20:00 (Aug 30 19:58) and the fact
there are so many phases in the same year that are amost the same
angles as it (or at 90 degrees to them) that it would be criminally
wasteful to not make the bloody best that it is possible to make of
it.

At 20:00 the sun is at wherever the time zone for 20:00 is from
greenwich.

The position of the moon depends on which phase it occurs in. For some
as yet to be explained reason, it doesn't seem to matter exactly which
phase it is.

At 08:00 the sun is 180 degrees to the first example and again the
moon is at some multiple of 90 degrees to that.

At 2 am or pm the sun is at 90 to the above and once more the moon is
at a multiple of 90 degrees.

I don't have any theories that explain things. Neither do I suppose
anyone who takes it on themselves to explain it will be able to get it
righ straight away.

I have no doubt that any mathematical observations made on my work
will be adopted one day and some new words taken up on the back of a
new branch or extension of science.

And then someone will come along and find out the right answer.


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On Aug 28, 4:42*pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
There are a significant number of storms developing during this spell
that don't seem capable of development. And they seem to form where
the last one in that sea tracked from.

They don't reach much intensity and they don't stray far from the
shore of a continent.

And there is a significant number of quite large magnitude quakes
scattered over the planet.

And this is the last day of the spell proper as some parts of the
globe get set up for the following spell tomorrow.

The next spell begins in the UK on the 30th. It will be a repeat of
these spells -or their mean, if that is possible:

15 Jan *19:46
29 Feb *02:18
28 Apr *14:12
20 May *02:11
3 July * *02:19
18 Jul * *07:59
8 Aug * *20:20
30 Aug *19:58
7 Sept * 14:04
29 Sept *08:12
14 Oct * 20:03

The next spell is at almost exactly 20:00 (Aug 30 *19:58) and the fact
there are so many phases in the same year that are amost the same
angles as it (or at 90 degrees to them) that it would be criminally
wasteful to not make the bloody best that it is possible to make of
it.

At 20:00 the sun is at wherever the time zone for 20:00 is from
greenwich.

The position of the moon depends on which phase it occurs in. For some
as yet to be explained reason, it doesn't seem to matter exactly which
phase it is.

At 08:00 the sun is 180 degrees to the first example and again the
moon is at some multiple of 90 degrees to that.

At 2 am or pm the sun is at 90 to the above and once more the moon is
at a multiple of 90 degrees.

I don't have any theories that explain things. Neither do I suppose
anyone who takes it on themselves to explain it will be able to get it
righ straight away.

I have no doubt that any mathematical observations made on my work
will be adopted one day and some new words taken up on the back of a
new branch or extension of science.

And then someone will come along and find out the right answer.


Hey, how about that, the first one I can link to a North Atlantic Low.

I had a bad crick in my neck and left shoulder from yesterday though
it had been building for a few days. Earlier this evening it cleared
up after takinf some tablets for an headache it has entirely gone. And
that Low set up that broke apart yesterday has built up once again.

Go figure.
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On Aug 27, 5:46*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

Negative oceanic oscillations, the so called El Nino / Southern
(Pacific) oscillation and the North AtIantic Oscillation are nothing


el snippet

There is Nooooooo way that all the negative stuff is related to those
phases.

Shoot! Now I have to look at data and stuff. I hate doing that.
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On Aug 28, 3:22*am, Skywise wrote:
Weatherlawyer wrote in news:714e516d-e8fb-4330-
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On Aug 27, 5:46*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


Negative oceanic oscillations, the so called El Nino / Southern
(Pacific) oscillation and the North AtIantic Oscillation are nothing


el snippet


There is Nooooooo way that all the negative stuff is related to those
phases.


Shoot! Now I have to look at data and stuff. I hate doing that.


Oh darn! You actually have to do some real science.


You live in a small world enclosed with simplistic co-ordinates and
will not -at any price, attempt to see that the formulas of
geophysical phenomenae are not submissive to your little balls.

They are not concerned so much with the shape of the earth as with the
textures of it. But you can not see that and finally I leave you to
brood about it wherever you list to.

I would be grateful, if in some future place you can see a way from
your wind blown crags to inspire me, you will append your small
addenda out of the main-stream of my posts.

Thank you so much in advance.
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Weatherlawyer wrote in news:b7364b33-6fd6-49b8-
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I would be grateful, if in some future place you can see a way from
your wind blown crags to inspire me, you will append your small
addenda out of the main-stream of my posts.


Youzza tellin' me to butta outta youz convazashun? Youzza postin'
inna public forum so youzza gonna getta public respondin. Capite?

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