Air pressure decrease with altitude (Mexico city)
 

Hello,
my understanding is that air pressure [mb] or [hPa] (metric units
please) descreases with altitude. A rough rule of thumb that I've seen
cited is that the correction is 1 millibar for each 8 meters of
altitude gain.

Looking at the weather for Mixico city in the links below I see an
Air-Pressure 1011.2 hPa or Millibar.

I would have though that the measured air-pressure in Mexico city
(2300 m) would
be of the order of ~ 800 hPa. Can someone enlighten me on this issue ?

Thanks & regards

http://www.wetter.com/home/cooperati...18 2&type=WMO

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0300

Air pressure decrease with altitude (Mexico city)
 

Rik O'Shea wrote:
Hello,
my understanding is that air pressure [mb] or [hPa] (metric units
please) descreases with altitude. A rough rule of thumb that I've seen
cited is that the correction is 1 millibar for each 8 meters of
altitude gain.

Looking at the weather for Mixico city in the links below I see an
Air-Pressure 1011.2 hPa or Millibar.

I would have though that the measured air-pressure in Mexico city
(2300 m) would
be of the order of ~ 800 hPa. Can someone enlighten me on this issue ?

Thanks & regards

http://www.wetter.com/home/cooperati...18 2&type=WMO

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0300



Pressures are commonly reduced to sea level. Else a pressure
analysis would just be a topographic analysis. So the pressure
you are seeing at Mexico City is the pressure that would occur
if the alimeter were taken from Mexico City's altitude down
to sea level through a hypothetical atmosphere with an assumed
temperature.

scott

Air pressure decrease with altitude (Mexico city)
 

Hi Rik,

Pressure is usually quoted with the figure corrected to sea level so that a
meaningful comparison can be made between different locations. If you don't
do this then the pressure pattern is just a chart of height because, as you
point out, the pressure gradient is very much greater in the vertical than
the horizontal.
ICAO and WMO have different rules for the correction so there are two sea
levels pressures at airfields and the station level pressure as well!!

Frankie


"Rik O'Shea" wrote in message
om...
Hello,
my understanding is that air pressure [mb] or [hPa] (metric units
please) descreases with altitude. A rough rule of thumb that I've seen
cited is that the correction is 1 millibar for each 8 meters of
altitude gain.

Looking at the weather for Mixico city in the links below I see an
Air-Pressure 1011.2 hPa or Millibar.

I would have though that the measured air-pressure in Mexico city
(2300 m) would
be of the order of ~ 800 hPa. Can someone enlighten me on this issue ?

Thanks & regards

http://www.wetter.com/home/cooperati...18 2&type=WMO

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0300

Air pressure decrease with altitude (Mexico city)
 

Think of a 2300 m deep well drilled in the ground with Mexico City being
the well site; the well is lined with steel so water, etc. can't get in it
and it is dry at the bottom; you put the barometer at the bottom of this
well and read its absolute pressure. This is how the standardized
pressure published for Mexico City is determined. The weather bureau
"drills" this imaginary well and assumes that the pressure changes with
altitude in accordance with an international standard arrived at via
averaging data taken over several years. The purpose of standardizing
pressures read from different geographical locations is to detect weather
systems, arrange matters so that at a given site most readings will be
between the high and low ends of the barometer's scale, etc.

On 16 Feb 2005, Rik O'Shea wrote:

Hello,
my understanding is that air pressure [mb] or [hPa] (metric units
please) descreases with altitude. A rough rule of thumb that I've seen
cited is that the correction is 1 millibar for each 8 meters of
altitude gain.

Looking at the weather for Mixico city in the links below I see an
Air-Pressure 1011.2 hPa or Millibar.

I would have though that the measured air-pressure in Mexico city
(2300 m) would
be of the order of ~ 800 hPa. Can someone enlighten me on this issue ?

Thanks & regards

http://www.wetter.com/home/cooperati...18 2&type=WMO

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0300

Air pressure decrease with altitude (Mexico city)
 

"Ian W. Douglas" wrote in message ...
Think of a 2300 m deep well drilled in the ground with Mexico City being
the well site; the well is lined with steel so water, etc. can't get in it
and it is dry at the bottom; you put the barometer at the bottom of this
well and read its absolute pressure. This is how the standardized
pressure published for Mexico City is determined. The weather bureau
"drills" this imaginary well and assumes that the pressure changes with
altitude in accordance with an international standard arrived at via
averaging data taken over several years. The purpose of standardizing
pressures read from different geographical locations is to detect weather
systems, arrange matters so that at a given site most readings will be
between the high and low ends of the barometer's scale, etc.

On 16 Feb 2005, Rik O'Shea wrote:

Hello,
my understanding is that air pressure [mb] or [hPa] (metric units
please) descreases with altitude. A rough rule of thumb that I've seen
cited is that the correction is 1 millibar for each 8 meters of
altitude gain.

Looking at the weather for Mixico city in the links below I see an
Air-Pressure 1011.2 hPa or Millibar.

I would have though that the measured air-pressure in Mexico city
(2300 m) would
be of the order of ~ 800 hPa. Can someone enlighten me on this issue ?

Thanks & regards

http://www.wetter.com/home/cooperati...18 2&type=WMO

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0300


Also worth noting that the conversion to mean sea level pressure
involves estimating the mean air temperature in this hypothetical
'well'. There are obviously uncertainties involved in this, and they
increase as a function of the altitude, to the point that above a
certain elevation it is no longer possible to produce a meaningful sea
level pressure analysis.

WMO (World Meteorological Organization) recommends that stations above
800 metres do not report mean sea level pressure - instead, in most
places, they report the estimated 850 hPa height (or, at stations
above ~1500 metres, the estimated 700 hPa height). The U.S. and Mexico
are two places where mean sea level pressure is reported regardless of
station elevation. (So is Mongolia - for those who recall the reported
world record high pressure of ~1085 hPa a few years ago, this was
largely an artefact of the reduction algorithm used at a
high-elevation station, and 1060-1070 would have been a more realistic
estimate).

It's not really a problem for us because we don't have any pressure
observations in Australia above ~1000m.

Blair Trewin
National Climate Centre
Australian Bureau of Meteorology