Please see:
http://www.theindychannel.com/weathe...74/detail.html

Rodger please explain why you describe a 'religious' argument' as 'fossil
fool science'
What is the connection between religion and oil???

"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
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Please see:
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"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
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His explanation is as good as yours or are you just a bigoted buddhist

Maybe we should just ask everyone posting to this list whether or not
they believe the earth to be over a million years old.

This will tell us who is arguing from evidence current as of 1850 or
later and who, essentially, made their minds up longer ago than that.

It's interesting that people who don't use the past couple of
centuries' evidence tend to be a bit cagey about their opinion. I think
we ought to encourage them to express themselves.

The concept of bigotry in this context is very interesting. From
dictionary.com:

--
big·ot n.
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[French, from Old French.]
Word History: Bigots may have more in common with God than one might
think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to
kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi
got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our
expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal, it
is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the
Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or
very possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the Beguines,
members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on
Old French bigot meant "an excessively devoted or hypocritical
person." Bigot is first recorded in English in 1598 with the sense
"a superstitious hypocrite."
--

--
mt

big·ot n.
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

I think that describes most people on Usenet. If they were not
strongly partial they would not have a reason to be here, with some
exceptions. I am strongly partial about some things, but not about the
gobal warming issue where I see good points on both sides.

On 30 Apr 2005 11:48:32 -0700, "Michael Tobis" wrote:

Maybe we should just ask everyone posting to this list whether or not
they believe the earth to be over a million years old.

There's no doubt in my mind that it is. Everything we look at, shrieks
it. Take a polar bear for example, one may quibble whether the first
polar bear emerged 100,000 or 200,000 years ago, but one can't quibble
it must have taken rather more than 1 million years to make its
_ancestor_ emerge.

You are asking a very perceptive question, Alan. A question that
deserves an answer.


A Venn diagram of "Fossil Fools" and "Young Earth Creationists"
overlaps greater than 90%. The two groups use the same tactics,
as well. There was a Poll that demonstrated this, but I can't
seem to find it now. (Maybe someone can help me here.)

The sets of "Tobacco Lobbyists" and "anti-environmentalists" have
a large overlap too. You'll find the same public relations outfits
serving all four causes. Heartland and Cato are two examples
from among many.

If you asked the nutroll with the stupid biblical flood theory
in this article, I'll bet that he won't agree with mainstream
science on tobacco, global warming, or the findings of
environmental science either.


I hope I have answered your question, Alan.

"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
oups.com...
You are asking a very perceptive question, Alan. A question that
deserves an answer.


A Venn diagram of "Fossil Fools" and "Young Earth Creationists"
overlaps greater than 90%. The two groups use the same tactics,
as well. There was a Poll that demonstrated this, but I can't
seem to find it now. (Maybe someone can help me here.)

The sets of "Tobacco Lobbyists" and "anti-environmentalists" have
a large overlap too. You'll find the same public relations outfits
serving all four causes. Heartland and Cato are two examples
from among many.

If you asked the nutroll with the stupid biblical flood theory
in this article, I'll bet that he won't agree with mainstream
science on tobacco, global warming, or the findings of
environmental science either.



You sound more paranoid than usual.

Michael Tobis wrote:
Maybe we should just ask everyone posting to this list whether or not
they believe the earth to be over a million years old.


God in her infinite wisdom created the Earth 6000 years ago already 4
billion years old. Surely an omnipotent being can create the universal
state machine to any desired initial state.

This will tell us who is arguing from evidence current as of 1850 or
later and who, essentially, made their minds up longer ago than that.

It's interesting that people who don't use the past couple of
centuries' evidence tend to be a bit cagey about their opinion. I
think
we ought to encourage them to express themselves.

The concept of bigotry in this context is very interesting. From
dictionary.com:

--
big·ot n.
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
politics and is intolerant of those who differ.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[French, from Old French.]
Word History: Bigots may have more in common with God than one might
think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused
to
kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi
got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our
expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal,
it
is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the
Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or
very possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the
Beguines,
members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on
Old French bigot meant "an excessively devoted or hypocritical
person." Bigot is first recorded in English in 1598 with the sense
"a superstitious hypocrite."
--

--
mt

Tim Miller wrote:

Michael Tobis wrote:

Maybe we should just ask everyone posting to this list whether or not
they believe the earth to be over a million years old.

God in her infinite wisdom created the Earth 6000 years ago already 4
billion years old. Surely an omnipotent being can create the universal
state machine to any desired initial state.

But (s)he could just as easily have done it last Tuesday.

Beats me why anyone wants their God to be no better than a dodgy antique
dealer creating a new object and then distressing it to make it look
spuriously older and more valuable to fool the punters.
Bishop Usher has a lot to answer for...

Regards,
Martin Brown