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I'll be doing a project wherein I am comparing the 100 year historical
record of a location for temperature and precipatation to the the
global average over that same time and also a paleo-record for that
location between now and the last glacial maxim.

What are some of the databases that are good to look at for this? What
are some of the better locations that some of you are familiar with for
this? This is a school project, I don't want you to do my 'homework'
for me, so to speak, that is why I am making you aware that it is a
school project. However, I am permited help and would appreciate help
in the matter. I'd like to use locations outside the US, since everyone
else is going to be picking them, but from what I understand good data
is hard to come by. I'd like to have a really good data source, so
that then I can make a full evaluation of it and better understand the
project as a whole. Can anyone make recommendations?

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I'll be doing a project wherein I am comparing the 100 year historical
record of a location for temperature and precipatation to the the
global average over that same time and also a paleo-record for that
location between now and the last glacial maxim.

What are some of the databases that are good to look at for this? What
are some of the better locations that some of you are familiar with for
this? This is a school project, I don't want you to do my 'homework'
for me, so to speak, that is why I am making you aware that it is a
school project. However, I am permited help and would appreciate help
in the matter. I'd like to use locations outside the US, since everyone
else is going to be picking them, but from what I understand good data
is hard to come by. I'd like to have a really good data source, so
that then I can make a full evaluation of it and better understand the
project as a whole. Can anyone make recommendations?


The longest running continuous temperature record is the CET data.
CET stands for Central England Temperature. There is a corresponding
record of rainfall for a similar area called the HadEWP, for Hadley
England and Wales precipitation. This site should give you a starting
point.
http://www.metoffice.com/research/ha...ata/index.html

HTH,

Cheers, Alastair.


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Thankyou for the help. Other suggestions from others would be
appreciated too.


I honestly have no idea why the original message repeated so much,
apologies to eveyone, I know how annoying that sort of thing is.

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I notice for the CET that they state that there's been an adjustment,
since the 70's, for urban warming, but other literature seems to be
saying that there's been a great overcompensation for urban warming in
these sorts of adjustments. I think that perhaps the CET might prove to
have an advantage tho, as a subject for this project, simply because
its such an old record and probably has a large body of research around
it.

I also notice that there is some paleoclimate data for england down to
at least the 'little ice age', and I suspect a more thorough search
will reveal that these records extend to the last big ice age. \


This is proving interesting.

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I notice for the CET that they state that there's been an adjustment,
since the 70's, for urban warming, but other literature seems to be
saying that there's been a great overcompensation for urban warming in
these sorts of adjustments. I think that perhaps the CET might prove to
have an advantage tho, as a subject for this project, simply because
its such an old record and probably has a large body of research around
it.

I also notice that there is some paleoclimate data for england down to
at least the 'little ice age', and I suspect a more thorough search
will reveal that these records extend to the last big ice age. \


This is proving interesting.


You might get some more replies if you try uk.sci.weather That attracts
a few European weather enthusiasts as well. They are not interested in
global warming or George W. Bush, which is probably a good thing :-(

The longest records for dendrochronology are in the US, I think, though the
Irish tree rings go back to at least to 2,000 BC. The ice core records which
use annual snow layers, go back 100,000 years to the last interglacial,
but they are for Greenland so you cannot apply them directly to the UK,
or even the USA.

Try to keep focused. There is so much interesting stuff out there, it is
easy to entertain yourself and then find you have been just wasting your
time!

HTH,

Cheers, Alastair.







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