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[email protected] September 7th 05 07:56 AM

Many are losing sight that we may have 2 more Katrina-like-Hurricanes before 2005 ends
 
I do not dispute the existence of Lagrange points of gravity between
Earth and Sun. That is not why I call it a myth to be debunked. I
dispute the idea that these Lagrange points are ever a useful
engineering platform to build something like an Earth Air Conditioner.
These Lagrange points to me are theoretical points in space but not
practical points in space. Who knows whether they are stationary points
for a given amount of time or whether they fluctuate in location wildly
and rapidly.

The theory of these Lagrange points is okay, it is the engineering
value that I question as to them being any use.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies


[email protected] September 7th 05 08:07 AM

Many are losing sight that we may have 2 more Katrina-like-Hurricanes before 2005 ends
 
I do not mean stationary points, I mean stable points in space. Who
knows whether a passing comet unbalances the Lagrange L1 or L2. Who
knows if a Sun flare rearranges L1 or L2. Who knows the perturbations
of the massive planets in the system alter L1 and L2 from one minute to
the next.

Lagrange points exist but the perturbations of the solar system
probably makes L1 and L2 an unviable engineering platform. I maybe
wrong on this evaluation but it is the best I can ado at this moment.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies


Bob Cain September 8th 05 08:50 AM

Many are losing sight that we may have 2 more Katrina-like-Hurricanesbefore 2005 ends
 


James Toupin wrote:

All the variables and implications have to be taken into account before any
course of action is taken.


If you try to do that with a non-linear recursive system
like the one we breathe from, live on and swim in you will
wait forever before acting.


Bob
--

"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."

A. Einstein

[email protected] September 9th 05 07:47 PM

Many are losing sight that we may have 2 more Katrina-like-Hurricanes before 2005 ends
 
Bob Cain wrote:

If you try to do that with a non-linear recursive system
like the one we breathe from, live on and swim in you will
wait forever before acting.

Bob


Well said. One of the duties of being a scientist is to act when the
world situation calls for you to act. And example of this is evident
with the rebuilding of New Orleans in that the science community should
be out front and center by informing the politicians that it is insane
to rebuild old New Orleans on the same plot of land. And that given the
present circumstances, that a science leader would build a Newest
Orleans on ground above sea level and on ground for which building
foundations can reach solid bedrock. If Baton Rouge fits that
description then the answer is simply to make Baton Rouge twice its
size. And the only thing worth building in old New Orleans would be
au-naturale without any levees or pumping but a American style Venice
with canals and transportation by boat.

There is a old saying in finances, which I suppose transfers to
economics. And the saying is "don't throw good money after bad money"
or "don't chase bad money with that of good money". Same can be said of
New Orleans in that if rebuilt and a month later or a year later
another hurricane destroys New Orleans, a lot of politicians are going
to look very foolish.

As I said before, there should be a Federal Zoning code. Local zoning
forbids us to build on swamps. Forbids us to build on land where
bedrock is unreachable. So the entire city of New Orleans fails all
building codes of this entire nation and because it fails, the federal
law should forbid us to rebuild on the same plot of land. It is
commonsense that if you have a city so vulnerable to storms, because it
is below sea level, that no politician should be left with the guilt
that when the next storm strikes and thousands are drowned that those
politicians who rebuilt New Orleans are directly responsible for that
future tragedy. A tragedy of stupidity.

Another poster named Per said that Holland has lived with underwater
building for centuries. That is true and admirable. But there is a big
difference between New Orleans and Holland. Holland has no choice but
to turn back the tide. Here in the USA we have ample choice of higher
dry land where only the insane would build below sea level. The sane
people of New Orleans would have put their house up for sale, just as
the sane people of Florida would be putting their house up for sale and
finding a job elsewhere because the entire Coast due to Global Warming
causing killer hurricanes is uninhabitable, and they would have done
this sometime between 2000 and July of 2005. I myself had a piece of
land in northern Florida circa 2001 but sold it. I did not sell it
directly because of Global Warming causing killer hurricanes. But that
reality faces nearly everyone living on the coast now. The reality is
that killer hurricanes are making every Gulf Coast state almost
uninhabitable, at least for the summer months but who wants to visit a
state that has rubble all over.

The answer to all of these problems is Earth Air-Conditioner of putting
Aluminium Sequin into orbit so that the Gulf waters cannot form
hurricanes.

I wonder if aluminum sequin placed in orbit can be made to stay in a
restricted orbit of about the equator latitudes so there would be a
band of sequin mostly in the equator region. Because the equator of
Earth is mostly water and not land. Because if in orbit the sequin can
be confined to a latitude, means that we can control the climate and
weather of Earth even more so.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies


MRJ September 9th 05 11:53 PM

Many are losing sight that we may have 2 more Katrina-like-Hurricanesbefore 2005 ends
 


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If Baton Rouge fits that
description then the answer is simply to make Baton Rouge twice its
size. And the only thing worth building in old New Orleans would be
au-naturale without any levees or pumping but a American style Venice
with canals and transportation by boat.





this is a very interesting idea...and practical.








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