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I do not dispute the existence of Lagrange points of gravity between
Earth and Sun. That is not why I call it a myth to be debunked. I dispute the idea that these Lagrange points are ever a useful engineering platform to build something like an Earth Air Conditioner. These Lagrange points to me are theoretical points in space but not practical points in space. Who knows whether they are stationary points for a given amount of time or whether they fluctuate in location wildly and rapidly. The theory of these Lagrange points is okay, it is the engineering value that I question as to them being any use. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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I do not mean stationary points, I mean stable points in space. Who
knows whether a passing comet unbalances the Lagrange L1 or L2. Who knows if a Sun flare rearranges L1 or L2. Who knows the perturbations of the massive planets in the system alter L1 and L2 from one minute to the next. Lagrange points exist but the perturbations of the solar system probably makes L1 and L2 an unviable engineering platform. I maybe wrong on this evaluation but it is the best I can ado at this moment. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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![]() James Toupin wrote: All the variables and implications have to be taken into account before any course of action is taken. If you try to do that with a non-linear recursive system like the one we breathe from, live on and swim in you will wait forever before acting. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Bob Cain wrote:
If you try to do that with a non-linear recursive system like the one we breathe from, live on and swim in you will wait forever before acting. Bob Well said. One of the duties of being a scientist is to act when the world situation calls for you to act. And example of this is evident with the rebuilding of New Orleans in that the science community should be out front and center by informing the politicians that it is insane to rebuild old New Orleans on the same plot of land. And that given the present circumstances, that a science leader would build a Newest Orleans on ground above sea level and on ground for which building foundations can reach solid bedrock. If Baton Rouge fits that description then the answer is simply to make Baton Rouge twice its size. And the only thing worth building in old New Orleans would be au-naturale without any levees or pumping but a American style Venice with canals and transportation by boat. There is a old saying in finances, which I suppose transfers to economics. And the saying is "don't throw good money after bad money" or "don't chase bad money with that of good money". Same can be said of New Orleans in that if rebuilt and a month later or a year later another hurricane destroys New Orleans, a lot of politicians are going to look very foolish. As I said before, there should be a Federal Zoning code. Local zoning forbids us to build on swamps. Forbids us to build on land where bedrock is unreachable. So the entire city of New Orleans fails all building codes of this entire nation and because it fails, the federal law should forbid us to rebuild on the same plot of land. It is commonsense that if you have a city so vulnerable to storms, because it is below sea level, that no politician should be left with the guilt that when the next storm strikes and thousands are drowned that those politicians who rebuilt New Orleans are directly responsible for that future tragedy. A tragedy of stupidity. Another poster named Per said that Holland has lived with underwater building for centuries. That is true and admirable. But there is a big difference between New Orleans and Holland. Holland has no choice but to turn back the tide. Here in the USA we have ample choice of higher dry land where only the insane would build below sea level. The sane people of New Orleans would have put their house up for sale, just as the sane people of Florida would be putting their house up for sale and finding a job elsewhere because the entire Coast due to Global Warming causing killer hurricanes is uninhabitable, and they would have done this sometime between 2000 and July of 2005. I myself had a piece of land in northern Florida circa 2001 but sold it. I did not sell it directly because of Global Warming causing killer hurricanes. But that reality faces nearly everyone living on the coast now. The reality is that killer hurricanes are making every Gulf Coast state almost uninhabitable, at least for the summer months but who wants to visit a state that has rubble all over. The answer to all of these problems is Earth Air-Conditioner of putting Aluminium Sequin into orbit so that the Gulf waters cannot form hurricanes. I wonder if aluminum sequin placed in orbit can be made to stay in a restricted orbit of about the equator latitudes so there would be a band of sequin mostly in the equator region. Because the equator of Earth is mostly water and not land. Because if in orbit the sequin can be confined to a latitude, means that we can control the climate and weather of Earth even more so. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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