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Default Hurricane WILMA: Airforce plane measures sustained winds of 150 mph: Cat 4: to go to cat 5 soon.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/190502.shtml

HURRICANE WILMA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 15
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2005

....AIR FORCE PLANE FINDS 150 MPH WINDS IN WILMA...

AN AIR FORCE PLANE MEASURED MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS OF NEAR 150
MPH...240 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. WILMA IS AN EXTREMELY
DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. THE
HURRICANE COULD BECOME A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE TODAY.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 15 MILES... 30 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 155 MILES...250 KM.

LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE JUST REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE
RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS IS 901 MB...26.61 INCHES.

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Default Hurricane WILMA: Airforce plane measures sustained winds of 150 mph: Cat 4: to go to cat 5 soon.

Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?

"Melchizedek" wrote in message
oups.com...
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/190502.shtml

HURRICANE WILMA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 15
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2005

...AIR FORCE PLANE FINDS 150 MPH WINDS IN WILMA...

AN AIR FORCE PLANE MEASURED MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS OF NEAR 150
MPH...240 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. WILMA IS AN EXTREMELY
DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. THE
HURRICANE COULD BECOME A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE TODAY.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 15 MILES... 30 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 155 MILES...250 KM.

LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE JUST REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE
RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS IS 901 MB...26.61 INCHES.



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"dan" wrote in message
...
Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?


I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the
season in prior years.

"Melchizedek" wrote in message
oups.com...
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/190502.shtml

HURRICANE WILMA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 15
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2005

...AIR FORCE PLANE FINDS 150 MPH WINDS IN WILMA...

AN AIR FORCE PLANE MEASURED MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS OF NEAR 150
MPH...240 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. WILMA IS AN EXTREMELY
DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. THE
HURRICANE COULD BECOME A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE TODAY.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 15 MILES... 30 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 155 MILES...250 KM.

LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE JUST REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE
RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS IS 901 MB...26.61 INCHES.





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Default Hurricane WILMA: Airforce plane measures sustained winds of 150 mph: Cat 4: to go to cat 5 soon.

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:19:25 GMT, "Steve Bloom"
wrote:

"dan" wrote in message
...
Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?


I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the
season in prior years.


http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/ne...ntent=w101904A

At bottom of above news report says, "There have been 10 late-season
hurricanes of Category 3 or higher since 1995."

Jon




"Melchizedek" wrote in message
oups.com...
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/190502.shtml

HURRICANE WILMA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 15
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2005

...AIR FORCE PLANE FINDS 150 MPH WINDS IN WILMA...

AN AIR FORCE PLANE MEASURED MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS OF NEAR 150
MPH...240 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. WILMA IS AN EXTREMELY
DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. THE
HURRICANE COULD BECOME A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE TODAY.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 15 MILES... 30 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 155 MILES...250 KM.

LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE JUST REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE
RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS IS 901 MB...26.61 INCHES.




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Default Hurricane WILMA: Airforce plane measures sustained winds of 150 mph: Cat 4: to go to cat 5 soon.

Mitch and Michelle in recent memory.

Keith and Iris in early October, but that's not late season.

Usually I consider November late season.



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Steve Bloom wrote:
"dan" wrote in message
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Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?



I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the
season in prior years.



That's a difficult question to answer for times
before frequent recon -- Wilma, for example,
would not likely be recorded as a cat 4 or 5 based
on ship reports alone.

What a beautiful storm from satellite!!

Scott
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Default Hurricane WILMA: Airforce plane measures sustained winds of 150 mph: Cat 4: to go to cat 5 soon.

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:19:25 GMT, "Steve Bloom"
wrote:


"dan" wrote in message
...
Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?


I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the
season in prior years.

Two - Mitch (98), and Hattie (61)

http://www.weathermatrix.net/tropical/cat5storms.htm

Interestingly, only 6 of the CAT 5's were in hot August, and 18 were
in September. This year it's one per month, and each one selects
something from the record-book.

Even if Landsea's Lost n Found project finds a few corrections from
the past, he's gonna have to hum a pretty good tune to say the
intensity increases predicted by the AGW models weren't showing up,
eh?
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owl wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:19:25 GMT, "Steve Bloom"
wrote:


"dan" wrote in message
...

Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?


I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the
season in prior years.


Two - Mitch (98), and Hattie (61)

http://www.weathermatrix.net/tropical/cat5storms.htm

Interestingly, only 6 of the CAT 5's were in hot August, and 18 were
in September.


Why is that at all interesting? September is the peak hurricane
month -- why shouldn't you expect more strong hurricanes in Sept?
You seem to be implying that SSTs are remarkably warmer in August
than in September. Are you? On what basis?

Scott
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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:55:27 -0500, Scott
wrote:

owl wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:19:25 GMT, "Steve Bloom"
wrote:


"dan" wrote in message
...

Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?


I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the
season in prior years.


Two - Mitch (98), and Hattie (61)

http://www.weathermatrix.net/tropical/cat5storms.htm

Interestingly, only 6 of the CAT 5's were in hot August, and 18 were
in September.


Why is that at all interesting? September is the peak hurricane
month -- why shouldn't you expect more strong hurricanes in Sept?
You seem to be implying that SSTs are remarkably warmer in August
than in September. Are you? On what basis?

Scott


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Default Hurricane WILMA: Airforce plane measures sustained winds of 150

dan wrote:
Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.


Do observe:

Wilma's rapid intensification took place over waters of
near normal sea surface temperatures:

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/...sstanomaly.gif


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