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Hi
For mesuring humidty, I have two digitals thermometers. One is mesuring the ambient air temperature and the second mesures the temperature of a wet cotton (which is in contact with the ambient air). In addition, I have a digital pressure sensor. But my problem is that I don't know the formula to calculate the relative humidity from dry temperature, wet temperature and pressure. Someone know this formula ? Thank you very much Alain |
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![]() "Elekaj" wrote in message ... Hi For mesuring humidty, I have two digitals thermometers. One is mesuring the ambient air temperature and the second mesures the temperature of a wet cotton (which is in contact with the ambient air). In addition, I have a digital pressure sensor. But my problem is that I don't know the formula to calculate the relative humidity from dry temperature, wet temperature and pressure. Someone know this formula ? Thank you very much Alain Do a google search on the Clausius-Clapeyron Equation and Relative Humidity. Dave |
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David Moran wrote:
"Elekaj" wrote in message ... Hi For mesuring humidty, I have two digitals thermometers. One is mesuring the ambient air temperature and the second mesures the temperature of a wet cotton (which is in contact with the ambient air). In addition, I have a digital pressure sensor. But my problem is that I don't know the formula to calculate the relative humidity from dry temperature, wet temperature and pressure. Someone know this formula ? Thank you very much Alain Do a google search on the Clausius-Clapeyron Equation and Relative Humidity. Dave Does Clausius-Clapeyron work with wetbulb? I've only ever used it with dewpoint. Back when I took obs at the PSU Wx Tower, we slung the psychrometer to get wetbulb and then used "The Magic Wheel" to figure out RH given the dry and wetbulbs. Scott |
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![]() "Scott" wrote in message ... David Moran wrote: "Elekaj" wrote in message ... Hi For mesuring humidty, I have two digitals thermometers. One is mesuring the ambient air temperature and the second mesures the temperature of a wet cotton (which is in contact with the ambient air). In addition, I have a digital pressure sensor. But my problem is that I don't know the formula to calculate the relative humidity from dry temperature, wet temperature and pressure. Someone know this formula ? Thank you very much Alain Do a google search on the Clausius-Clapeyron Equation and Relative Humidity. Dave Does Clausius-Clapeyron work with wetbulb? I've only ever used it with dewpoint. Back when I took obs at the PSU Wx Tower, we slung the psychrometer to get wetbulb and then used "The Magic Wheel" to figure out RH given the dry and wetbulbs. Scott I thought there was a way to do it, but I don't remember how. I remember seeing a problem like this on a test back in school. Dave |
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Elekaj wrote:
For mesuring humidty, I have two digitals thermometers. One is mesuring the ambient air temperature and the second mesures the temperature of a wet cotton (which is in contact with the ambient air). In addition, I have a digital pressure sensor. But my problem is that I don't know the formula to calculate the relative humidity from dry temperature, wet temperature and pressure. Someone know this formula ? There is no empirical formula to calculate relative humidity from temperature and wet bulb depression. You'd need to measure dew point to enable a calculation.. AFAIK the humidity tables based on wet bulb depression have been derived entirely from observation. -- John H |
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Would a psychometric chart help you?
John_H wrote: Elekaj wrote: For mesuring humidty, I have two digitals thermometers. One is mesuring the ambient air temperature and the second mesures the temperature of a wet cotton (which is in contact with the ambient air). In addition, I have a digital pressure sensor. But my problem is that I don't know the formula to calculate the relative humidity from dry temperature, wet temperature and pressure. Someone know this formula ? There is no empirical formula to calculate relative humidity from temperature and wet bulb depression. You'd need to measure dew point to enable a calculation.. AFAIK the humidity tables based on wet bulb depression have been derived entirely from observation. -- John H |
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If you know the air temperature and the wet bulb temperature, you first want
to calculate the actual mixing ratio of the air(W) using the following formula. (12) W=[(Tc-Twb)(Cp)-Lv(Eswb/P)]/[-(Tc-Twb)(Cpv)-Lv] W=actual mixing ratio of air Cp=specific heat of dry air at constant pressure(J/g)~1.005 J/g Cpv= specific heat of water vapor at constant pressure(J/g)~4.186 J/g Lv=Latent heat of vaporization(J/g)~2500 J/g Tc=air temperature in degrees Celsius Twb=wet bulb temperature in degrees Celsius Eswb=saturation vapor pressure at the wet bulb temperature(mb) P=atmospheric pressure at surface~1013 mb at sea-level Once you have the actual vapor pressure, you can use the following formula to calculate the saturation mixing ratio for the air. (13) Ws=Es/P Once you have the actual mixing ratio and the saturation mixing ratio, you can use the following formula to calculate relative humidity. (14) Relative Humidity(RH) in percent=(W/Ws)*100 Note: The latent heat of vaporization(Lv) varies slightly with temperature. The value given above is an approximate value for the standard atmosphere at 0 degrees Celsius. Note: Due to the large numbers of approximations using these formulas, your final answer may vary by as much as 10 percent. |
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Long ago, I created an excel spreadsheet add-in with formulas for
calculating humidity etc. its at: http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/bc/42902169...8zvmDBX4BH7Jvf "Elekaj" wrote in message ... Hi For mesuring humidty, I have two digitals thermometers. One is mesuring the ambient air temperature and the second mesures the temperature of a wet cotton (which is in contact with the ambient air). In addition, I have a digital pressure sensor. But my problem is that I don't know the formula to calculate the relative humidity from dry temperature, wet temperature and pressure. Someone know this formula ? Thank you very much Alain |
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The El Paso Area NWS has a Weather Calculator
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/elp/wxcalc/wxcalc.shtml which you might find useful; they also give the formulae you are looking for there at http://www.srh.noaa.gov/elp/wxcalc/f...omWetBulb.html You should be aware, however, that most tables/formulas are based on observations made with a wet-bulb that is ventilated, either by whirling or a fan. Strong ventilation is absolutely necessary to accuracy. Bob Elekaj wrote: Hi For mesuring humidty, I have two digitals thermometers. One is mesuring the ambient air temperature and the second mesures the temperature of a wet cotton (which is in contact with the ambient air). In addition, I have a digital pressure sensor. But my problem is that I don't know the formula to calculate the relative humidity from dry temperature, wet temperature and pressure. Someone know this formula ? Thank you very much Alain |
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