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EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased

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Roger Coppock wrote:
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased



I find it amusing that these "scientists" show a 1.3 million year proxy

temperature graph and end the last 8th of the graph with a 135 year
actual temperature reading.

Ahhh, James Hanson.......what a nut!


Oh and these "sciencetists" haven't taken the gloves off, they have
just lost thier objectivity! Which makes them nothing better than....
lets say.... you!

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wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Abstract:
Global surface temperature has increased

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wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Abstract:
Global surface temperature has increased

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wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased



I find it amusing that these "scientists" show a 1.3 million year proxy

temperature graph and end the last 8th of the graph with a 135 year
actual temperature reading.


"The paleoclimate SST, based on Mg content of foraminifera
shells, provides accuracy to1°C (29). Thus we cannot be sure that
we have precisely aligned the paleo and modern temperature scales.
Accepting paleo and modern temperatures at face value implies a
WEP 1870 SST in the middle of its Holocene range. Shifting the
scale to align the 1870 SST with the lowest Holocene value raises
the paleo curve by 0.5°C. Even in that case, the 2001-2005 WEP
SST is at least as great as any Holocene proxy temperature at that
location. Coarse temporal resolution of the Holocene data, 1,000
years, may mask brief warmer excursions, but cores with higher
resolution (29) suggest that peak Holocene WEP SSTs were not
more than 1°C warmer than in the late Holocene, before modern
warming. It seems safe to assume that the SST will not decline this
century, given continued increases of GHGs, so in a practical sense
the WEP temperature is at or near its highest level in the Holocene.
Fig. 5, including WEP data for the past 1.35 million years, shows
that the current WEP SST is within 1°C of the warmest interglacials
in that period."

Perhaps you can take this opportunity to provide the expert peer review
of this study. Remember, you don't have to replicate the data!

[snip]

Tracy P. Hamilton



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Tracy P. Hamilton wrote:
wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased



I find it amusing that these "scientists" show a 1.3 million year proxy

temperature graph and end the last 8th of the graph with a 135 year
actual temperature reading.


"The paleoclimate SST, based on Mg content of foraminifera
shells, provides accuracy to1°C (29). Thus we cannot be sure that
we have precisely aligned the paleo and modern temperature scales.
Accepting paleo and modern temperatures at face value implies a
WEP 1870 SST in the middle of its Holocene range. Shifting the
scale to align the 1870 SST with the lowest Holocene value raises
the paleo curve by 0.5°C. Even in that case, the 2001-2005 WEP
SST is at least as great as any Holocene proxy temperature at that
location. Coarse temporal resolution of the Holocene data, 1,000
years, may mask brief warmer excursions, but cores with higher
resolution (29) suggest that peak Holocene WEP SSTs were not
more than 1°C warmer than in the late Holocene, before modern
warming. It seems safe to assume that the SST will not decline this
century, given continued increases of GHGs, so in a practical sense
the WEP temperature is at or near its highest level in the Holocene.
Fig. 5, including WEP data for the past 1.35 million years, shows
that the current WEP SST is within 1°C of the warmest interglacials
in that period."

Perhaps you can take this opportunity to provide the expert peer review
of this study. Remember, you don't have to replicate the data!

[snip]

Tracy P. Hamilton


Peer review that tripe? That would slide across my desk and into my
garbage can....

Comparing proxy to actual temperatures is only something you would do
Hamilton, along with that joke of a graph. Looks almost like Coppock
made it.

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wrote:
Tracy P. Hamilton wrote:
wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased


I find it amusing that these "scientists" show a 1.3 million year proxy

temperature graph and end the last 8th of the graph with a 135 year
actual temperature reading.


"The paleoclimate SST, based on Mg content of foraminifera
shells, provides accuracy to1°C (29). Thus we cannot be sure that
we have precisely aligned the paleo and modern temperature scales.
Accepting paleo and modern temperatures at face value implies a
WEP 1870 SST in the middle of its Holocene range. Shifting the
scale to align the 1870 SST with the lowest Holocene value raises
the paleo curve by 0.5°C. Even in that case, the 2001-2005 WEP
SST is at least as great as any Holocene proxy temperature at that
location. Coarse temporal resolution of the Holocene data, 1,000
years, may mask brief warmer excursions, but cores with higher
resolution (29) suggest that peak Holocene WEP SSTs were not
more than 1°C warmer than in the late Holocene, before modern
warming. It seems safe to assume that the SST will not decline this
century, given continued increases of GHGs, so in a practical sense
the WEP temperature is at or near its highest level in the Holocene.
Fig. 5, including WEP data for the past 1.35 million years, shows
that the current WEP SST is within 1°C of the warmest interglacials
in that period."

Perhaps you can take this opportunity to provide the expert peer review
of this study. Remember, you don't have to replicate the data!

[snip]

Tracy P. Hamilton


Peer review that tripe? That would slide across my desk and into my
garbage can....


Comparing proxy to actual temperatures is only something you would do
Hamilton, along with that joke of a graph.


The first sentence is "The paleoclimate SST, based on Mg content of
foraminifera shells, provides accuracy to1°C (29)." A substantive
comment would have been something along the lines of:

1) that reference really does not say that
2) That reference does say that, but is wrong for this reason (then
give reason)

You're the joke.

Tracy P. Hamilton

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Tracy P. Hamilton wrote:
wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased


I find it amusing that these "scientists" show a 1.3 million year
proxy

temperature graph and end the last 8th of the graph with a 135 year
actual temperature reading.


"The paleoclimate SST, based on Mg content of foraminifera
shells, provides accuracy to1°C (29). Thus we cannot be sure that
we have precisely aligned the paleo and modern temperature scales.
Accepting paleo and modern temperatures at face value implies a
WEP 1870 SST in the middle of its Holocene range. Shifting the
scale to align the 1870 SST with the lowest Holocene value raises
the paleo curve by 0.5°C. Even in that case, the 2001-2005 WEP
SST is at least as great as any Holocene proxy temperature at that
location. Coarse temporal resolution of the Holocene data, 1,000
years, may mask brief warmer excursions, but cores with higher
resolution (29) suggest that peak Holocene WEP SSTs were not
more than 1°C warmer than in the late Holocene, before modern
warming. It seems safe to assume that the SST will not decline this
century, given continued increases of GHGs, so in a practical sense
the WEP temperature is at or near its highest level in the Holocene.
Fig. 5, including WEP data for the past 1.35 million years, shows
that the current WEP SST is within 1°C of the warmest interglacials
in that period."

Perhaps you can take this opportunity to provide the expert peer review
of this study. Remember, you don't have to replicate the data!

[snip]

Tracy P. Hamilton


Peer review that tripe? That would slide across my desk and into my
garbage can....

Comparing proxy to actual temperatures is only something you would do
Hamilton, along with that joke of a graph. Looks almost like Coppock
made it.


The DisgustingGuffy would prefer no data instead of proxy data, or he
would hop into his time machine and go get the actual data rather than
infer anthing from proxy data. TheDisgustingGuffy is like that when he is
not licking pus from oozing syphallis sores.
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TheDisgustingGuffy wrote:
The DisgustingGuffy would prefer no data instead of proxy data, or he
would hop into his time machine and go get the actual data rather than
infer anthing from proxy data.


You mean scientists can't gather proxy data from current samples and
compare them to older proxy data?

You sound like Hamilton!

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Roger Coppock wrote:
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased



I find it amusing that these "scientists" show a 1.3 million year proxy

temperature graph and end the last 8th of the graph with a 135 year
actual temperature reading.

Ahhh, James Hanson.......what a nut!


Oh and these "sciencetists" haven't taken the gloves off, they have
just lost thier objectivity! Which makes them nothing better than....
lets say.... you!


The Exxon stoodges like you are getting all known.

Eventually there will be a $10,000,000 fund put up to sue your ISPs and
get your home address and real names through subpoena power -- then the
TRUTH Commissions begin. We'll find out back to the first grade what made
you a traitor to the human race. Not that we forgive you for that, but we
want to know what kind of child abuse turns out sicko psychos who would
hinder the emergency response team to a world crisis.


http://www.samspade.org/t/whois?a=24...om;server=auto
http://charter.com/

We know where the subpoena for TheDisgustingGuffy goes to.


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