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How The Arctic ICE MELTED.
http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Arctic_Ice_Melt.html Some sample news stories which describe various aspects of the problem followed by visual tutorial of the heat dynamics doing the damage. Satellite images taken in August a year apart show unusually low concentrations of ice (yellow and green areas). British Isles outline indicates scale. Photo: ESA STORY LINKS: * Unprecedented melting of Arctic September 23, 2006 * Arctic ocean warms as global oceans cool -- September 26, 2006 * Arctic Ice Melt Leaves Openings Larger Than British Isles -- September 22, 2006 * Arctic ice melt alarms climate researchers -- September 14, 2006 * European Scientists Stunned by Arctic Ice Melt -- September 20, 2006 Arctic Sea Ice News 2006 (for more detailed descriptions). Figure 1: Sea ice extent for September 18, 2006 Graphic showing current sea ice compared to Sept average Current sea ice conditions: September 18, 2006 As compared to the last report, the polynya in the Beaufort Sea has opened (Figure 1). Some areas of the ocean show evidence of new ice formation as autumn cooling begins to take hold. However, at the same time, some areas south of the polynya that were formerly ice covered have continued to melt out. Total Arctic sea ice extent has declined slightly as compared to the last report, but we are probably close to the turning point in the season. White indicates areas where sea ice is present. Areas in blue are open ocean, while gray indicates land masses. The pink line shows the average ice extent for September, the end of the summer melt season. The September average is calculated from 1979 through 2000. http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Arctic_Ice_Melt.html HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED: Told in four graphic intensive pages, 120 days of satellite images capture the events of the Northern Pacific Ocean and Alaska, as tropical clouds are swirled into the Arctic. Click picture to access page. June 8-9th, 2006, one hour intervals. Thumbnails reduced size access full sized single images. Thumbnail page 582 kbytes, available data pictures total 5.3 megabyes. Click picture to access page. Two hurricanes active near equator. August 24-26th two-hourly intervals. Thumbnail page 236 kbytes, available data pictures total 4.7 megabyes. Click picture to access page. May 29, 2006 to September 25, 2006, 24-hour intervals. Approximately zero-hour UTC, Zulu Time. Images are sliced horizontally discarding lower 2/3rds. Thumbnails reduced 50%. See below samples for image manipulation details. Thumbnail page 1.7 megabytes, available data pictures total 8.7 megabyes. Click picture to access page. May 29, 2006 to September 25, 2006, 24-hour intervals. Approximately zero-hour UTC, Zulu Time. Images are sliced horizontally discarding lower 2/3rds. Then cropped to remove left and right. Remaining image is not reduced from original scale. Available data pictures total 4.2 megabyes. This is a typical image taken every half hour day and night. This infrared enhancement is named rainbow color. The data files do not have the latitude and longitude lines on them but it helps here to show you the area of coverage from this satellite viewpoint. The area of concern is top center. Alaska and above 50 degrees latitude is the area of interest. Here a large cloud mass containing latent heat is found south of Alaska. This is a remnant of Typhoon Yagi and still contains some counter-clockwise spin shoving warmer air north into and over Alaska on this date. Below is a slice from the same image. Below that is the reduced size and the non-reduced but cropped left and right sides version of the same data to focus only on Alaska and the Far Northern latitudes. |
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(Eric Swanson) wrote in
: In article , says... How The Arctic ICE MELTED. http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Arctic_Ice_Melt.html Some sample news stories which describe various aspects of the problem followed by visual tutorial of the heat dynamics doing the damage. Nice pictures. However, the graphics don't prove HOW the ice melted, just that the polynia in the Beaufort Sea and the area of low concentration in the Atlantic side did form in unusual areas. Why not add the buoy maps, showing the flow of ice away from the polynia? The thing may have formed as the result of wind forcing which we know pushed the sea-ice away. The flip side would be that there may have been an unusually large outflow of sea-ice thru the Fram Strait. The graphics prove that the heat was delivered to the location where the ice melted. Any arguments against the idea, that tropical heat where it does not belong, have to present a cogent theory why heat would not melt ice when the two are placed together. The delivery system includes three well known parts: Hurricanes have raised oceanic heat as rain water, Hurricanes push waters before their winds as "surge", and Hurricanes carry high kinetic energy called winds. One should not suppose that any one of the three are absent without carrying the burden of proof to support the suggestion. Each liter of rainwater is capable of melting 13 grams of ice for each degree above 0C the rainfall is. In 2006 the prevailing pattern of air flow has been on a line from the tropical Pacific off the coast of Japan to Alaska an into the Arctic. a seperate eddy of that water current flow is through the Bering Sea. Likewise each liter of seawater is capable of melting 13 grams of ice for each degree above 0C. Even if no rainfall and no surge waters exist, the mere presence of tropical clouds over the Arctic ice pack is itself suffucient to explain atypical melting behaviors, as clouds are omnidirectional radiators of infrared energy in the exact same bandwidth as ice is an absorber. 25 megabytes of data was insufficient to knock the idiocy from Eric Swanson's head. Another 497 files of images and texts composing 17 more megabytes is not likely to do the job either, but for the ones who are not over the hill and still capable of making reasoned conclusions from compelling data, here are additional facts. Hurricane IOKE is an object of interest in and of itself. It reached category 5 hurricane status and stayed above category 4 or 5 for many days in a 4,000 miles trek across the Pacific ocean. At it's conclusion the storm was broken by strong windshear and pockets of cooler waters, leaving unspent remnants of rainclouds accumulated over 29C, 85F sea temperatures, and this was swiftly moved and deposited over the the site of the giant ice melt in early September. It is one very conspicuously visible specimen of the class of events occurring all summer. Added to the ongoing "Heads UP" notices posted on regular intervals is this latest addition: http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Mystery_Solv...ry_Solved.html http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Arctic_Ice_Melt.html http://ecosyn.us/1/temp_sep_06/IOKE_IR_Funktops.html http://ecosyn.us/1/temp_sep_06/IR_WEUS.html http://ecosyn.us/1/temp_Aug2/temp_aug2.html http://ecosyn.us/1/temp_july8/ITCZ_july6-8.html http://ecosyn.us/1/temp_july7/ITCZ.html http://ecosyn.us/1/temp_july9/july9.html |
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In article , says...
(Eric Swanson) wrote in : In article , says... How The Arctic ICE MELTED. http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Arctic_Ice_Melt.html Some sample news stories which describe various aspects of the problem followed by visual tutorial of the heat dynamics doing the damage. Nice pictures. However, the graphics don't prove HOW the ice melted, just that the polynia in the Beaufort Sea and the area of low concentration in the Atlantic side did form in unusual areas. Why not add the buoy maps, showing the flow of ice away from the polynia? The thing may have formed as the result of wind forcing which we know pushed the sea-ice away. The flip side would be that there may have been an unusually large outflow of sea-ice thru the Fram Strait. The graphics prove that the heat was delivered to the location where the ice melted. Any arguments against the idea, that tropical heat where it does not belong, have to present a cogent theory why heat would not melt ice when the two are placed together. The delivery system includes three well known parts: Hurricanes have raised oceanic heat as rain water, Hurricanes push waters before their winds as "surge", and Hurricanes carry high kinetic energy called winds. One should not suppose that any one of the three are absent without carrying the burden of proof to support the suggestion. http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Mystery_Solv...ry_Solved.html The Palace Troll again can not understand that the pictures don't tell us WHY something happened. Correlation is not causation, afterall. The first question to ask would be, are these storms unusual? One might need 30-50 years of data to answer that question alone. Until the Palace Troll is able to provide something more than pretty pictures, it's rant is just more hot air and wasted bandwidth. -- Eric Swanson --- E-mail address: e_swanson(at)skybest.com :-) -------------------------------------------------------------- |
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(Eric Swanson) wrote in
: In article , says... (Eric Swanson) wrote in : In article , says... How The Arctic ICE MELTED. http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Arctic_Ice_Melt.html Some sample news stories which describe various aspects of the problem followed by visual tutorial of the heat dynamics doing the damage. Nice pictures. However, the graphics don't prove HOW the ice melted, just that the polynia in the Beaufort Sea and the area of low concentration in the Atlantic side did form in unusual areas. Why not add the buoy maps, showing the flow of ice away from the polynia? The thing may have formed as the result of wind forcing which we know pushed the sea-ice away. The flip side would be that there may have been an unusually large outflow of sea-ice thru the Fram Strait. The graphics prove that the heat was delivered to the location where the ice melted. Any arguments against the idea, that tropical heat where it does not belong, have to present a cogent theory why heat would not melt ice when the two are placed together. The delivery system includes three well known parts: Hurricanes have raised oceanic heat as rain water, Hurricanes push waters before their winds as "surge", and Hurricanes carry high kinetic energy called winds. One should not suppose that any one of the three are absent without carrying the burden of proof to support the suggestion. http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Mystery_Solv...ry_Solved.html The Palace Troll again can not understand that the pictures don't tell us WHY something happened. Correlation is not causation, afterall. The first question to ask would be, are these storms unusual? One might need 30-50 years of data to answer that question alone. Until the Palace Troll is able to provide something more than pretty pictures, it's rant is just more hot air and wasted bandwidth. Eric Swanson was watching the magical picture box that has little people behind the glass and was told about a wonderful product named "Depends" undergarments for people with embarrassing bladder control problems. Having purchased a package, Swanson as usual failed to read the package instructions or connect commonly known facts, and understood that these adult diapers now were a substitute from actually getting up and going to a certain special place when natural voiding urges insisted. To make a long ugly story short, periodically men from the HAZMAT disposal team have to enter his domicile wearing sealed moonsuits and chisle off the dried and hardened accretions causing that painful red rash. It seems that cheap Swanson decided to stretch his purchase by making each one last a whole month. |
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says... (Eric Swanson) wrote in : In article , says... The Palace Troll again can not understand that the pictures don't tell us WHY something happened. Correlation is not causation, afterall. The first question to ask would be, are these storms unusual? One might need 30-50 years of data to answer that question alone. Until the Palace Troll is able to provide something more than pretty pictures, it's rant is just more hot air and wasted bandwidth. Eric Swanson was watching the magical picture box that has little people behind the glass and was told about a wonderful product named "Depends" undergarments for people with embarrassing bladder control problems. The Palace Troll responds with the usual troll **** when it has no rational reply to a reasoned comment. -- Eric Swanson --- E-mail address: e_swanson(at)skybest.com :-) -------------------------------------------------------------- |
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(Eric Swanson) wrote in
: In article 02, says... (Eric Swanson) wrote in : In article , says... The Palace Troll again can not understand that the pictures don't tell us WHY something happened. Correlation is not causation, afterall. The first question to ask would be, are these storms unusual? One might need 30-50 years of data to answer that question alone. Until the Palace Troll is able to provide something more than pretty pictures, it's rant is just more hot air and wasted bandwidth. Eric Swanson was watching the magical picture box that has little people behind the glass and was told about a wonderful product named "Depends" undergarments for people with embarrassing bladder control problems. The Palace Troll responds with the usual troll **** when it has no rational reply to a reasoned comment. Totally appropriate response to any post with the word "troll" in it. Nobody ELSE gave you the "WHY something happened", but you didn't find it compulsive to append your insults to their post. I gave you the necessary links which showed you WHY the thing happened. A man too lazy to go look at the ease of a mouse click is likely too lazy to go to a particular room to defecate when he can do it right where he sits without bothering to do anything special or go anywhere special. Whether or not you understand how the world is working is not my responsability. I think we all can compare the comments you wrote on the subject previously and the work that I did preparing 17 megabytes and 25 megabytes of data and see who has quest for knowledge as a priority. As I recall you created a couple of half-baked suggestions in a sentence or two each, that maybe it wasn't "heat" that melted the ice but "wind" instead, as if wind was not heat-kinetic motion in the first place but some magical thing that emerges like Topsey out of nothing at all, "just growed". http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Arctic_Ice_Melt.html http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Mystery_Solv...ry_Solved.html http://ecosyn.us/1/temp_sep_06/IOKE_IR_Funktops.html http://ecosyn.us/1/temp_sep_06/IR_WEUS.html http://ecosyn.us/1/temp_Aug2/temp_aug2.html http://ecosyn.us/1/temp_july8/ITCZ_july6-8.html http://ecosyn.us/1/temp_july7/ITCZ.html http://ecosyn.us/1/temp_july9/july9.html You made not the slightest effort to look for the source of the "wind", nor did you support your trolling cockamammy turd tossed in the punchbowl with any facts, facts which you now demand others produce at your annoying insistance as you sit there all poopy-drawers and stinking of laziness. You might notice that all the data is stored in drawers named "temp", as in temporary. I don't feel obligated to support freeloaders with endless provision of data and webhosting bandwidth. If you don't have the good sense to download a copy when it it is made available, too bad when you change your mind later and go look for it. Let's make sure we get it straight: (1) You are on my world contingent on your good behavior or else GET OFF. (2) I make the rules, not you. (3) I am the star of my movie and you are a poorly-paid extra in a cast of billions. (4) I am about 1,000 times smarter than you. You have been cast in the role of village idiot. You may commence acting the part. |
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