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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:14:09 +0000 (UTC),
(Eric Swanson) wrote:

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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:54:26 +0000 (UTC),
(Eric Swanson) wrote:

15 August 2007

RECORD EVENT REPORTS FROM NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DATA

NEW PREVIOUS YEAR OF
LOCATION RECORD RECORD PREVIOUS

STATIONS SETTING (OR TIED) A NEW RECORD HIGH TEMPERATU

SEATTLE, WA 84 83 2002
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I just took this one at random and found that the record for Seattle
on August 15th was 96 degrees F set in 1942. And, I don't think it
was anywhere near 84 last Wednesday. (the high was 73 today)

Hey, I don't make this stuff up:

http://www.weather.gov/view/validPro...=RER&node=KSEW
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I'm at a loss to figure out what that is that you're referencing. If
you go to:
http://www.weather.com/weather/clima...o&cm_cat=www.y
ahoo.com&cm_pla=

you'll see that the average record high temperature for August in
Seattle is about 93. The hottest ever was in 1981 at 99.

The data I posted was from the official National Weather Service
Office in Seattle. Now, if you want to use the Weather Channel
as an accurate source of data, go ahead. First, tell us the
exact location of the measurements they present. I'd bet that
the NWS site is the Seattle airport. There are lots of other
sites around Seattle, which might explain the difference.

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/sew/observations.php

Of course, there's always the chance for human error.
Don't throw out all the other data just because you think there
might be a problem with one value. There were 192 records set
according to the NCDC site and many of the NWS reports are not
included in the NCDC data set.



The record was set at the Seattle National Weather Service Forecast
Office (station KSEW), northeast of the downtown Seattle near Lake
Washington. The text of the record statement was

SXUS76 KSEW 160132
RERSEW

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
0629 PM PDT WED AUG 15 2007

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT SEATTLE WFO...

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 84 DEGREES WAS SET AT SEATTLE WFO
TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 83 SET IN 2002.

The WFO site record only goes back to 1986. The weather channel page is
referring to the Seattle-Tacoma airport (KSEA), south of downtown, about
12 miles away from KSEW, with a record going back to 1950.

Harold
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Harold Brooks

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:54:05 -0500, Harold Brooks
wrote:

The record was set at the Seattle National Weather Service Forecast
Office (station KSEW), northeast of the downtown Seattle near Lake
Washington. The text of the record statement was

SXUS76 KSEW 160132
RERSEW

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
0629 PM PDT WED AUG 15 2007

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT SEATTLE WFO...

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 84 DEGREES WAS SET AT SEATTLE WFO
TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 83 SET IN 2002.

The WFO site record only goes back to 1986. The weather channel page is
referring to the Seattle-Tacoma airport (KSEA), south of downtown, about
12 miles away from KSEW, with a record going back to 1950.
Harold

And do you know if this site is used in the global average
temperature data set?

For those born yesterday, and for sites that have only been
around for 20 years, 90 would be a hot day.

A day out in a wheat field with a scythe when the
temperature is 108 would unclog some brain cells, sitting in air
conditioned rooms in front of a computer searching google really
gets away from nature and reality.

Thanks for the explanation of the apparent error.

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:22:32 +0000 (UTC),
(Eric Swanson) wrote:

In article , says...

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:14:09 +0000 (UTC),
(Eric Swanson) wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:54:26 +0000 (UTC),
(Eric Swanson) wrote:

15 August 2007

RECORD EVENT REPORTS FROM NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DATA

NEW PREVIOUS YEAR OF
LOCATION RECORD RECORD PREVIOUS

STATIONS SETTING (OR TIED) A NEW RECORD HIGH TEMPERATU

SEATTLE, WA 84 83 2002
============================================== ===============
I just took this one at random and found that the record for Seattle
on August 15th was 96 degrees F set in 1942. And, I don't think it
was anywhere near 84 last Wednesday. (the high was 73 today)

Hey, I don't make this stuff up:

http://www.weather.gov/view/validPro...=RER&node=KSEW
================================================ ==============
I'm at a loss to figure out what that is that you're referencing. If
you go to:
http://www.weather.com/weather/clima...o&cm_cat=www.y
ahoo.com&cm_pla=

you'll see that the average record high temperature for August in
Seattle is about 93. The hottest ever was in 1981 at 99.

The data I posted was from the official National Weather Service
Office in Seattle. Now, if you want to use the Weather Channel
as an accurate source of data, go ahead. First, tell us the
exact location of the measurements they present. I'd bet that
the NWS site is the Seattle airport. There are lots of other
sites around Seattle, which might explain the difference.

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/sew/observations.php

Of course, there's always the chance for human error.
Don't throw out all the other data just because you think there
might be a problem with one value. There were 192 records set
according to the NCDC site and many of the NWS reports are not
included in the NCDC data set.
================================================== =
You are correct. The temperatures I was using must have come from
another site.
The high record of 84 just caught my eye as it was so low, the lowest
high record in August by the looks of it.

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:54:05 -0500, Harold Brooks
wrote:


The record was set at the Seattle National Weather Service Forecast
Office (station KSEW), northeast of the downtown Seattle near Lake
Washington. The text of the record statement was

SXUS76 KSEW 160132
RERSEW

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
0629 PM PDT WED AUG 15 2007

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT SEATTLE WFO...

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 84 DEGREES WAS SET AT SEATTLE WFO
TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 83 SET IN 2002.

The WFO site record only goes back to 1986. The weather channel page is
referring to the Seattle-Tacoma airport (KSEA), south of downtown, about
12 miles away from KSEW, with a record going back to 1950.

Harold
================================================== ==============
Thanks for that. That would explain why there are so many new hot
records. Some of the sites are relatively new.