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Here, from Hadley Centre, are the global sea surface
temperatures from 1850 to 2006. Please see: http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadSST2gl.jpg As predicted by Arrhenius over a century ago, the rate of sea warming is slower than global land warming. NASA GISS has global land surface warming at .58K/per century between 1880 and 2006. (Please see: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt) These data come from: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/ There are no urban centers in the sea, but watch the fossil fools blame this on UHI anyway. |
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Roger Coppock wrote:
Here, from Hadley Centre, are the global sea surface temperatures from 1850 to 2006. Please see: http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadSST2gl.jpg http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt) Of course the SSTs warmed at the fastest rate from 1910 through 1945 with very little help from GHGs. The most recent thirty five years warmed at a lesser rate, even with lots of reputed GHG forcing. |
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On Aug 20, 1:55 pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
There are no urban centers in the sea, but watch the fossil fools blame this on UHI anyway. Uhh, it's called the SUN, Poppycock. |
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![]() As predicted by Arrhenius over a century ago, the rate of sea warming is slower than global land warming. That's a stupid statement. How much heat can the Oceans absorb? Apples and oranges. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/topics |
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Roger Coppock wrote:
Here, from Hadley Centre, are the global sea surface temperatures from 1850 to 2006. Please see: http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadSST2gl.jpg As predicted by Arrhenius over a century ago, the rate of sea warming is slower than global land warming. NASA GISS has global land surface warming at .58K/per century between 1880 and 2006. (Please see: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt) These data come from: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/ Why is 1970-ish the baseline for the temperature anomaly? What was the sensitivity/accuracy of the thermometers used? Why should I care that sea surface temperatures have risen over the past 150 years? |
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Peter Franks wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote: Here, from Hadley Centre, are the global sea surface temperatures from 1850 to 2006. Please see: http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadSST2gl.jpg As predicted by Arrhenius over a century ago, the rate of sea warming is slower than global land warming. NASA GISS has global land surface warming at .58K/per century between 1880 and 2006. (Please see: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt) These data come from: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/ Why is 1970-ish the baseline for the temperature anomaly? What was the sensitivity/accuracy of the thermometers used? Why should I care that sea surface temperatures have risen over the past 150 years? If one aspirin helps then 30 will really fix me up - huh. This is a typical way of thinking, which overflows into Global Warming, people think that if a little Co2 makes it a half degree warmer then a lot of Co2 will make it really hot. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bull**** to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - |
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On Aug 20, 4:55 pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
Here, from Hadley Centre, are the global sea surface temperatures from 1850 to 2006. Please see: http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadSST2gl.jpg As predicted by Arrhenius over a century ago, the rate of sea warming is slower than global land warming. NASA GISS has global land surface warming at .58K/per century between 1880 and 2006. (Please see:http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt) These data come from:http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/ There are no urban centers in the sea, but watch the fossil fools blame this on UHI anyway. You *could* blame it on the assumption that all sea going vessels simultaneously switched from bucket measurement to water intake measurement; a false assumption which biases the record. You *could* blame it on the XBT devices which have been proven to have a warm bias, see Gouretski et al. 2006, obviously biasing the record. Or you could just ignore any quality control issues with the data and scream about the falling sky because the point suits you. |
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On Aug 20, 5:19 pm, Peter Franks wrote:
[ . . . ] Why should I care that sea surface temperatures have risen over the past 150 years? LOL! Isn't that about what one lobster said to another as the water in their pot slowly warmed? |
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On Aug 20, 6:17 pm, wrote:
[ . . . ] You *could* blame it on the assumption that all sea going vessels simultaneously switched from bucket measurement to water intake measurement; a false assumption which biases the record. You *could* blame it on the XBT devices which have been proven to have a warm bias, see Gouretski et al. 2006, obviously biasing the record. Or you could just ignore any quality control issues with the data and scream about the falling sky because the point suits you. If you have better data, you are certainly welcome to post them here. Until then, science sides with data over conjecture. |
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On Aug 20, 4:33 pm, Al Bedo wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote: Here, from Hadley Centre, are the global sea surface temperatures from 1850 to 2006. Please see: http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadSST2gl.jpg These data come from: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/ Of course the SSTs warmed at the fastest rate from 1910 through 1945 An acceleration of: 5.6 +- .4 K/century^2 with yearly slopes computed on a 30-year rolling average. with very little help from GHGs. The most recent thirty five The presented data say the most recent 55 years that 1952 to 2006 when analyzed with a 30-year rolling average. This period has an acceleration of 4.3 +- .1 K/century^2 years warmed at a lesser rate, even with lots of reputed GHG forcing. What a stupid stupid strawman! No responsable person claims that greenhouse gases are the only climate forcing. There are many other things that cause climate change. Below, please find a graph of several of them. Note that the green line, representing man-made greenhouse gas emissions easily dominates all other potential causes of the observed warming today and that they are growing the fastest. Please see: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/modelforce/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:C...ttribution.png http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/figspm-3.htm http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/pubs/crowley.html ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/pal...al-4_12_01.txt |
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