SEVERE COLD WAVE TO HIT EUROPE...
http://www.accuweather.com/ukie/bast...er=accuweather

"I wish to point out, with no malice intended,
that the two countries who have major
scientific organizations that have been
pushing the global warming idea, Britain
and the UKMET and the US with NOAA
have been burned by the cold that has
developed here. NOAA had a December
forecast for a warm central US for
November that they were forced to revise
and the UKMET forecast for a rather
bland winter for Europe speaks for itself.
Its anything but bland, whether it averages
out near the average or not, because
what is coming has not been seen in years.

Now that could mean that its testimony to
how warm it is... it hasnt been seen in
years. But the fact it hasnt disappeared
completely, the fact it is coming back
and catching people off guard (hopefully
not you) means there is no rout on, but
plenty of doubt. If an enemy is vanquished,
it should not be able to launch attacks of
this magnitude."

BTW I seem to remember a cold wave in
Southern California and snow in Las Vegas.

IOW Joe *******i thinks like me; I say
the winter across the USA will hard and
cold.

Does anybody dispute me?

David Christainsen - Meteorologist

David wrote:

Joe the ******* *******i - Ignorant American Fascist.

"kT" wrote in message
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**** . Joe has a PHD in Meteo from one of the best Meteo Universitys in the
US and works for the biggest Weather firm in the US, while i live off food
stamps in my trailerpark. I know more about weather & climate tat Joe does
dammit.! Stop listening to Joe *******i!

Frigid -40 Below Zero Global warming wind chills wrote:

"kT" wrote in message
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**** . Joe has a PHD

Credentialism. I also wasn't aware that he had a PhD. In fact a
superficial search of the internet reveals that he doesn't have one.

Joe *******i, BSc, (Meteorology, Pennsylvania State), meteorologist,
State College, Pennsylvania, U.S.A.

That didn't prevent him from commenting on the rigors of Phd studies :

Quoting Joe *******i :

"When someone gets a PhD, his or her thesis is normally attacked, for
lack of a better word, in something known as the "orals," at least it
was for those venturing into those waters at PSU. In other words, a
group of people still in a higher academic standing than you"

Ok, Joe, let's see how you did in your PhD 'orals'.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...sc&btnG=Search

Joe *******i BSc - 149 hits. Not so good, apparently.

His views fly in the face of all of climatology and planetary science.

He's a ****ing hire for pay weatherman liar on steroids, get over it.

"kT" wrote in message
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Joe *******i graduated on March 4, 1978 from Penn State University, and was
hired by AccuWeather shortly after. He currently holds the title of "Expert
Senior Forecaster







Joe Sobel attended the University of Michigan, from which he received a B.S.
in meteorology in 1967. Joe earned an M.S. and Ph.D. from the Pennsylvania
State University in 1970 and 1976 respectively. He was awarded the American
Meteorological Society's Broadcaster of the Year in 2005. In 1972, Joe
joined AccuWeather, the world's largest commercial weather organization. He
started as a part-time employee, became a full-time forecaster in 1976 and
was promoted to Expert Senior Forecaster in 1978. He became a Senior Vice
President in 1981.

http://www.accuweather.com/news-bio.asp?blog=*******i



http://www.accuweather.com/news-bio.asp?blog=sobel

Frigid -40 Below Zero Global warming wind chills wrote:

"kT" wrote in message
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Joe *******i - Accuweather ******* on Steroids.

Joe Sobel - Accuweather Paid Liar.

Science is one area of endeavor where credentials or a license are not
required at all to participate, and one's success is based solely on the
veracity of one's results. Weather prediction is not science.

Joe Sobel is a scientific failure. You can't call meteorology at a local
weather station 'science'. Especially if you are doing it commercially.

kT wrote:

Frigid -40 Below Zero Global warming wind chills wrote:

kT wrote...

Joe *******i - Accuweather ******* on Steroids.

Joe Sobel - Accuweather Paid Liar.

Science is one area of endeavor where credentials or a license are not
required at all to participate, and one's success is based solely on the
veracity of one's results. Weather prediction is not science.

Joe Sobel is a scientific failure. You can't call meteorology at a local
weather station 'science'. Especially if you are doing it commercially.

The reader needs more than just seeing some anonymous poster assert
things about Joe *******i or Joe Sobel. You need to provide specifics
that the reader can check for accuracy. Or, as you put it, "one's
success is based solely on the veracity of one's results."

wrote:
kT wrote:
Frigid -40 Below Zero Global warming wind chills wrote:
kT wrote...

Joe *******i - Accuweather ******* on Steroids.
Joe Sobel - Accuweather Paid Liar.
Science is one area of endeavor where credentials or a license are not
required at all to participate, and one's success is based solely on the
veracity of one's results. Weather prediction is not science.

Joe Sobel is a scientific failure. You can't call meteorology at a local
weather station 'science'. Especially if you are doing it commercially.

The reader needs more than just seeing some anonymous poster assert
things about Joe *******i or Joe Sobel. You need to provide specifics
that the reader can check for accuracy. Or, as you put it, "one's
success is based solely on the veracity of one's results."

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=...&btnG=Sea rch

Nothing in his name, a couple of 'thank-you's' from actual scientists.

wrote:
kT wrote:

Frigid -40 Below Zero Global warming wind chills wrote:

kT wrote...

Joe *******i - Accuweather ******* on Steroids.

Joe Sobel - Accuweather Paid Liar.

Science is one area of endeavor where credentials or a license are
not required at all to participate, and one's success is based
solely on the veracity of one's results. Weather prediction is not
science.

Joe Sobel is a scientific failure. You can't call meteorology at a
local weather station 'science'. Especially if you are doing it
commercially.

The reader needs more than just seeing some anonymous poster assert
things about Joe *******i or Joe Sobel. You need to provide specifics
that the reader can check for accuracy.

Not really - this is a common denialist mistake. There is no more debate,
AGW has been detected and we are now determining its effects. It won't
matter a hill of beans what anyone says, or thinks. Kind of like during
Katrina. Levees - and glaciers - don't care.

kT wrote:

wrote:

kT wrote:

Frigid -40 Below Zero Global warming wind chills wrote:

kT wrote...

Joe *******i - Accuweather ******* on Steroids.
Joe Sobel - Accuweather Paid Liar.

Science is one area of endeavor where credentials or a license are not
required at all to participate, and one's success is based solely on the
veracity of one's results. Weather prediction is not science.

Joe Sobel is a scientific failure. You can't call meteorology at a local
weather station 'science'. Especially if you are doing it commercially.

The reader needs more than just seeing some anonymous poster assert
things about Joe *******i or Joe Sobel. You need to provide specifics
that the reader can check for accuracy. Or, as you put it, "one's
success is based solely on the veracity of one's results."

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=...&btnG=Sea rch

Nothing in his name, a couple of 'thank-you's' from actual scientists.

That would be evidence supporting your "not a scientist" claim.

Where is the evidence supporting your "Paid Liar" claim?

Where is the evidence supporting your claims about Joe *******i?

Again, The reader needs more than just seeing some anonymous poster
assert things about Joe *******i or Joe Sobel. You need to provide
specifics that the reader can check for accuracy. You haven't done
that.