On Dec 29, 11:23*am, Tom McDonald wrote:
On Dec 29, 10:54*am, crunch wrote:





On Dec 29, 10:38*am, Tom McDonald wrote:

crunch wrote:
On Dec 28, 8:49 pm, "(Kelly)" wrote:
On Dec 28, 4:13 pm, crunch wrote:

So, as a professional meteorologist
With my wireless weather station and accompanying software to download
the info on my computer, I'm more of a "professional meteorologist"
than you are or ever have been.

What an outpouring of bunk here from Kelly!

This is a good opportunity to ask you what your meteorology setup
is. What do you use to study and predict your local weather?

--
Tom "Go Pack" McDonald

Why do you ask? *I did not know you were green.

I ask because I am curious. I am interested in what tools you use to
study and predict the weather.

As a kid, I looked at the weather gear (hygrometers, wind speed and
direction indicators, barometers, etc.) with longing, but couldn't
afford any of it. Now I might be able to scrape up a bit of cash for
some weather stuff; but I would like some idea of what folks are using
these days.

I'll answer (because Soggy refuses to).

I have an Oregon Scientific WMA-968 wireless solar powered weather
station. The setup includes a rain gauge, outdoor thermometer, indoor
thermometer, outdoor barometer, outdoor humidity gauge, indoor
humidity gauge, anemometer (wind gauge) and the main touchscreen
monitor that can be hooked up to your computer and whatever weather
monitoring software you purchase to go along with with. Everything
that's outside is connected to a solar powered transmitter (with a
battery backup inside the unit). The rain gauge has to be level when
you set it up (of course); it has a leaf guard and an automatic water
dumping unit inside the unit. The anemometer is tricky to set up -
has to be calibrated and placed in an area where there are no
obstructions and high enough to get accurate readings. The extending
arm of the anemometer has to be pointed due south. I mounted the
anemometer on top of a 7 ft. tall corner fence post and then onto a 3
foot galvanized 1" pipe (with a cap on it) that screws into a round
floor footing mount. I secured the floor mount onto the top of the
post with a 6"x6" piece of pine on top of that. The solar-powered
transmitter is also mounted on the galvanized pipe. There are U-bolts
included for all of the solar-powered transmitters and the anemometer
- because I wanted to make certain there would be no risk of the U-
bolts coming loose and the units sliding down the pole, I slid used 1"
pieces of 1/2 inch rubber fuel line onto each U-bolt and it acts as a
nice cushion and "stop" for the metal against metal.

Now...as far as how well the whole things works...I'm very happy with
it. It's been up for less than a week, but so far, it seems to be
very accurate. I will have to see how the whole thing does in extreme
weather (wind, rain, etc.) to give it a complete thumbs-up. But so
far so good.

The software I purchased is not what I would call the best, but I plan
to upgrade to something better at a later time. For just starting
out, however, it is adequate. Right now I'm working on getting my
weather info online (accuweather, Weather Underground, something like
that) - if you're interested, I'll give you the link when it's up and
running.

It's a new hobby I think I'm going to enjoy. We get some pretty nasty
winds up here in the winter-time (whether the the stuff coming down
the Fraser Gap from British Columbia, the stuff from the Pacific
coast, or a local phenomenon known as "Chinook" winds), so I'm
interested in what will come up as far as wind speed recorded on this
unit. And, of course, this is the Pacific Northwest, so there is a
ton of rain to record.

If you have any questions about the above, let me know.

(Kelly) wrote:
On Dec 29, 11:23 am, Tom McDonald wrote:
On Dec 29, 10:54 am, crunch wrote:





On Dec 29, 10:38 am, Tom McDonald wrote:
crunch wrote:
On Dec 28, 8:49 pm, "(Kelly)" wrote:
On Dec 28, 4:13 pm, crunch wrote:
So, as a professional meteorologist
With my wireless weather station and accompanying software to download
the info on my computer, I'm more of a "professional meteorologist"
than you are or ever have been.
What an outpouring of bunk here from Kelly!
This is a good opportunity to ask you what your meteorology setup
is. What do you use to study and predict your local weather?
--
Tom "Go Pack" McDonald
Why do you ask? I did not know you were green.
I ask because I am curious. I am interested in what tools you use to
study and predict the weather.

As a kid, I looked at the weather gear (hygrometers, wind speed and
direction indicators, barometers, etc.) with longing, but couldn't
afford any of it. Now I might be able to scrape up a bit of cash for
some weather stuff; but I would like some idea of what folks are using
these days.

I'll answer (because Soggy refuses to).

I have an Oregon Scientific WMA-968 wireless solar powered weather
station.

Do you mean OS WMR-968? That's what I think you have. Here is a
link to that version:

http://www.ambientweather.com/wmorscwiprwe.html

The setup includes a rain gauge, outdoor thermometer, indoor
thermometer, outdoor barometer, outdoor humidity gauge, indoor
humidity gauge, anemometer (wind gauge) and the main touchscreen
monitor that can be hooked up to your computer and whatever weather
monitoring software you purchase to go along with with. Everything
that's outside is connected to a solar powered transmitter (with a
battery backup inside the unit). The rain gauge has to be level when
you set it up (of course); it has a leaf guard and an automatic water
dumping unit inside the unit. The anemometer is tricky to set up -
has to be calibrated and placed in an area where there are no
obstructions and high enough to get accurate readings. The extending
arm of the anemometer has to be pointed due south. I mounted the
anemometer on top of a 7 ft. tall corner fence post and then onto a 3
foot galvanized 1" pipe (with a cap on it) that screws into a round
floor footing mount. I secured the floor mount onto the top of the
post with a 6"x6" piece of pine on top of that. The solar-powered
transmitter is also mounted on the galvanized pipe. There are U-bolts
included for all of the solar-powered transmitters and the anemometer
- because I wanted to make certain there would be no risk of the U-
bolts coming loose and the units sliding down the pole, I slid used 1"
pieces of 1/2 inch rubber fuel line onto each U-bolt and it acts as a
nice cushion and "stop" for the metal against metal.

Wow. That sounds like fun!

Now...as far as how well the whole things works...I'm very happy with
it. It's been up for less than a week, but so far, it seems to be
very accurate. I will have to see how the whole thing does in extreme
weather (wind, rain, etc.) to give it a complete thumbs-up. But so
far so good.

The software I purchased is not what I would call the best,

Is it one flavor of Virtual Weather Station? (See the link above
for the VWS versions available for the WMR 968.

but I plan
to upgrade to something better at a later time.

Any idea what that might be?

For just starting
out, however, it is adequate. Right now I'm working on getting my
weather info online (accuweather, Weather Underground, something like
that) - if you're interested, I'll give you the link when it's up and
running.

That would be interesting. I'm not deeply into weather, but this
is fun.

It's a new hobby I think I'm going to enjoy. We get some pretty nasty
winds up here in the winter-time (whether the the stuff coming down
the Fraser Gap from British Columbia, the stuff from the Pacific
coast, or a local phenomenon known as "Chinook" winds), so I'm
interested in what will come up as far as wind speed recorded on this
unit. And, of course, this is the Pacific Northwest, so there is a
ton of rain to record.

If you have any questions about the above, let me know.

See above. Thanks for sharing.

--
Tom "Go Pack" McDonald

On Dec 29, 5:21*pm, Tom McDonald wrote:
(Kelly) wrote:
On Dec 29, 11:23 am, Tom McDonald wrote:
On Dec 29, 10:54 am, crunch wrote:

On Dec 29, 10:38 am, Tom McDonald wrote:
crunch wrote:
On Dec 28, 8:49 pm, "(Kelly)" wrote:
On Dec 28, 4:13 pm, crunch wrote:
So, as a professional meteorologist
With my wireless weather station and accompanying software to download
the info on my computer, I'm more of a "professional meteorologist"
than you are or ever have been.
What an outpouring of bunk here from Kelly!
This is a good opportunity to ask you what your meteorology setup
is. What do you use to study and predict your local weather?
--
Tom "Go Pack" McDonald
Why do you ask? *I did not know you were green.
I ask because I am curious. I am interested in what tools you use to
study and predict the weather.

As a kid, I looked at the weather gear (hygrometers, wind speed and
direction indicators, barometers, etc.) with longing, but couldn't
afford any of it. Now I might be able to scrape up a bit of cash for
some weather stuff; but I would like some idea of what folks are using
these days.

I'll answer (because Soggy refuses to).

I have an Oregon Scientific WMA-968 wireless solar powered weather
station. *

Do you mean OS WMR-968? That's what I think you have. Here is a
link to that version:

http://www.ambientweather.com/wmorscwiprwe.html





The setup includes a rain gauge, outdoor thermometer, indoor
thermometer, outdoor barometer, outdoor humidity gauge, indoor
humidity gauge, anemometer (wind gauge) and the main touchscreen
monitor that can be hooked up to your computer and whatever weather
monitoring software you purchase to go along with with. *Everything
that's outside is connected to a solar powered transmitter (with a
battery backup inside the unit). *The rain gauge has to be level when
you set it up (of course); it has a leaf guard and an automatic water
dumping unit inside the unit. *The anemometer is tricky to set up -
has to be calibrated and placed in an area where there are no
obstructions and high enough to get accurate readings. *The extending
arm of the anemometer has to be pointed due south. *I mounted the
anemometer on top of a 7 ft. tall corner fence post and then onto a 3
foot galvanized 1" pipe (with a cap on it) that screws into a round
floor footing mount. *I secured the floor mount onto the top of the
post with a 6"x6" piece of pine on top of that. *The solar-powered
transmitter is also mounted on the galvanized pipe. *There are U-bolts
included for all of the solar-powered transmitters and the anemometer
- because I wanted to make certain there would be no risk of the U-
bolts coming loose and the units sliding down the pole, I slid used 1"
pieces of 1/2 inch rubber fuel line onto each U-bolt and it acts as a
nice cushion and "stop" for the metal against metal.

Wow. That sounds like fun!

Now...as far as how well the whole things works...I'm very happy with
it. *It's been up for less than a week, but so far, it seems to be
very accurate. *I will have to see how the whole thing does in extreme
weather (wind, rain, etc.) to give it a complete thumbs-up. *But so
far so good.

The software I purchased is not what I would call the best,

Is it one flavor of Virtual Weather Station? (See the link above
for the VWS versions available for the WMR 968.

but I plan
to upgrade to something better at a later time. *

Any idea what that might be?

For just starting
out, however, it is adequate. *Right now I'm working on getting my
weather info online (accuweather, Weather Underground, something like
that) - if you're interested, I'll give you the link when it's up and
running.

That would be interesting. I'm not deeply into weather, but this
is fun.

It's a new hobby I think I'm going to enjoy. *We get some pretty nasty
winds up here in the winter-time (whether the the stuff coming down
the Fraser Gap from British Columbia, the stuff from the Pacific
coast, or a local phenomenon known as "Chinook" winds), so I'm
interested in what will come up as far as wind speed recorded on this
unit. *And, of course, this is the Pacific Northwest, so there is a
ton of rain to record.

If you have any questions about the above, let me know.

See above. Thanks for sharing.

Yes, that's the system (the "R" in the WMA was a typo on my part ;-).
I got it for $169 at the Oregon Scientific Store - the software was
$50 more. And I had to purchase a serial/USB adapter to hook it up to
my laptop because (as I'm sure you're aware) newer laptops don't have
serial ports anymore.

(Kelly) wrote:
On Dec 29, 5:21 pm, Tom McDonald wrote:
(Kelly) wrote:
On Dec 29, 11:23 am, Tom McDonald wrote:
On Dec 29, 10:54 am, crunch wrote:
On Dec 29, 10:38 am, Tom McDonald wrote:
crunch wrote:
On Dec 28, 8:49 pm, "(Kelly)" wrote:
On Dec 28, 4:13 pm, crunch wrote:
So, as a professional meteorologist
With my wireless weather station and accompanying software to download
the info on my computer, I'm more of a "professional meteorologist"
than you are or ever have been.
What an outpouring of bunk here from Kelly!
This is a good opportunity to ask you what your meteorology setup
is. What do you use to study and predict your local weather?
--
Tom "Go Pack" McDonald
Why do you ask? I did not know you were green.
I ask because I am curious. I am interested in what tools you use to
study and predict the weather.
As a kid, I looked at the weather gear (hygrometers, wind speed and
direction indicators, barometers, etc.) with longing, but couldn't
afford any of it. Now I might be able to scrape up a bit of cash for
some weather stuff; but I would like some idea of what folks are using
these days.
I'll answer (because Soggy refuses to).
I have an Oregon Scientific WMA-968 wireless solar powered weather
station.
Do you mean OS WMR-968? That's what I think you have. Here is a
link to that version:

http://www.ambientweather.com/wmorscwiprwe.html





The setup includes a rain gauge, outdoor thermometer, indoor
thermometer, outdoor barometer, outdoor humidity gauge, indoor
humidity gauge, anemometer (wind gauge) and the main touchscreen
monitor that can be hooked up to your computer and whatever weather
monitoring software you purchase to go along with with. Everything
that's outside is connected to a solar powered transmitter (with a
battery backup inside the unit). The rain gauge has to be level when
you set it up (of course); it has a leaf guard and an automatic water
dumping unit inside the unit. The anemometer is tricky to set up -
has to be calibrated and placed in an area where there are no
obstructions and high enough to get accurate readings. The extending
arm of the anemometer has to be pointed due south. I mounted the
anemometer on top of a 7 ft. tall corner fence post and then onto a 3
foot galvanized 1" pipe (with a cap on it) that screws into a round
floor footing mount. I secured the floor mount onto the top of the
post with a 6"x6" piece of pine on top of that. The solar-powered
transmitter is also mounted on the galvanized pipe. There are U-bolts
included for all of the solar-powered transmitters and the anemometer
- because I wanted to make certain there would be no risk of the U-
bolts coming loose and the units sliding down the pole, I slid used 1"
pieces of 1/2 inch rubber fuel line onto each U-bolt and it acts as a
nice cushion and "stop" for the metal against metal.
Wow. That sounds like fun!

Now...as far as how well the whole things works...I'm very happy with
it. It's been up for less than a week, but so far, it seems to be
very accurate. I will have to see how the whole thing does in extreme
weather (wind, rain, etc.) to give it a complete thumbs-up. But so
far so good.
The software I purchased is not what I would call the best,
Is it one flavor of Virtual Weather Station? (See the link above
for the VWS versions available for the WMR 968.

but I plan
to upgrade to something better at a later time.
Any idea what that might be?

For just starting
out, however, it is adequate. Right now I'm working on getting my
weather info online (accuweather, Weather Underground, something like
that) - if you're interested, I'll give you the link when it's up and
running.
That would be interesting. I'm not deeply into weather, but this
is fun.

It's a new hobby I think I'm going to enjoy. We get some pretty nasty
winds up here in the winter-time (whether the the stuff coming down
the Fraser Gap from British Columbia, the stuff from the Pacific
coast, or a local phenomenon known as "Chinook" winds), so I'm
interested in what will come up as far as wind speed recorded on this
unit. And, of course, this is the Pacific Northwest, so there is a
ton of rain to record.
If you have any questions about the above, let me know.
See above. Thanks for sharing.

Yes, that's the system (the "R" in the WMA was a typo on my part ;-).
I got it for $169 at the Oregon Scientific Store - the software was
$50 more. And I had to purchase a serial/USB adapter to hook it up to
my laptop because (as I'm sure you're aware) newer laptops don't have
serial ports anymore.


That's a pretty good price, at least from my minimal googling for
the system.

Damn! Now I have another thing to consider getting with my tax
refund! Although, as I live between two bars in a small apartment
building, I'm not sure I'd feel safe in putting up the outdoor
bits of the weather station. Drunks do funny things sometimes.

I'm curious as to why you didn't get, or didn't mention getting,
the one-piece mounting tripod or the 'pagoda' cover for the more
delicate parts of the weather station. It sounds as though you
had fun building your own mounting system, though.

Do you think you might spring for the 'pagoda' cover? ISTM that
that might help get more accurate temperature, etc., readings,
especially on sunny days. It would also make the outfit look
cool, like professional weather stations.

I guess, as with any hobby, the cost of adding the bells and
whistles can really start to add up to real money. I had a really
good telescope some years ago, and the bits and pieces I added to
it (upgraded heavy-duty tripod, adjustable declination wedge,
many toys. . . erm, tools for photography, extra eyepieces,
weather-proof cover, solar viewing attachment, eye patch, lens
cleaning kit, special true north aligner finder scope, batteries,
red flashlight, software, and on and on) totaled more than the
price of the scope itself. It was fun, though. Back when I wasn't
poor. :-)

Any pictures of the setup you'd be willing to share?

--
Tom "Go Pack" McDonald

On Dec 29, 4:38*pm, (Ian Davis)
wrote:
In article ,
Sir David wrote:

On Dec 29, 11:54 am, Carl ducked a simple
question:
On Dec 29, 10:38 am, Tom McDonald wrote:
What do you use to study and predict your local weather?
Why do you ask? I did not know you were green.

Carl refuses to answer a simple question (keeping his perfect record),
and follows it with a non-sequitur. He's just a meaty urologist at the
firm of Duck, Dodge, and Hyde. Who can't answer a simple questions,
but sure can kookdance!

I think the question was asked of Kelly. *If so David is just shoving an
oar in gratuitously, Ian.

Yet, if you re-read the thread, you will discover that
you are quite mistaken here. I believe you yourself
are gratuitous in this context. Please correct yourself
for the future.

As ever,
Dave

On Dec 30, 1:04*am, Tom McDonald wrote:

That's a pretty good price, at least from my minimal googling for
the system.

Yeah - I was surprised it even beat Amazon.com's price.

Damn! Now I have another thing to consider getting with my tax
refund! Although, as I live between two bars in a small apartment
building, I'm not sure I'd feel safe in putting up the outdoor
bits of the weather station. Drunks do funny things sometimes.

Yes, they do. You must live in a city...? If so, that would
definitely make setting up such a thing a little harder.

I'm curious as to why you didn't get, or didn't mention getting,
the one-piece mounting tripod or the 'pagoda' cover for the more
delicate parts of the weather station. It sounds as though you
had fun building your own mounting system, though.

Do you think you might spring for the 'pagoda' cover? ISTM that
that might help get more accurate temperature, etc., readings,
especially on sunny days. It would also make the outfit look
cool, like professional weather stations.

Yeah, it would be more like a professional weather station. Since we
live on almost three acres, with a few buildings on the property, I
was able to spread it all out and find perfect spots for everything.
The temp/barometer gauge, for example, is on the north side of the
post holding up the deck and eaves on the southside of my garage/
laundry room/office/music studio. Well-exposed, but out of direct
sunlight (since it's on the northside) and within the range where the
main, inside unit will pick up the signal.

I guess, as with any hobby, the cost of adding the bells and
whistles can really start to add up to real money. I had a really
good telescope some years ago, and the bits and pieces I added to
it (upgraded heavy-duty tripod, adjustable declination wedge,
many toys. . . erm, tools for photography, extra eyepieces,
weather-proof cover, solar viewing attachment, eye patch, lens
cleaning kit, special true north aligner finder scope, batteries,
red flashlight, software, and on and on) totaled more than the
price of the scope itself. It was fun, though. Back when I wasn't
poor. :-)

Yes - I've always like gadget hobbies myself. Starting with shortwave
radio back in the early 1970s. It can get expensive - but things like
eBay make it more reasonable these days, IMO. ;-)

Any pictures of the setup you'd be willing to share?

Sure - eventually. Maybe this weekend. Right now I'm on a tight
schedule before going back to work and school after a couple weeks
vacation.

On Dec 30, 9:02*am, crunch wrote:

On Dec 29, 4:38*pm, (Ian Davis)
wrote:

I think the question was asked of Kelly. *If so David is just shoving an
oar in gratuitously, Ian.

Yet, if you re-read the thread, you will discover that
you are quite mistaken here. *I believe you yourself
are gratuitous in this context. *Please correct yourself
for the future.

Yeah...it' really stinks that he actually thought Tom was responding
to me, rather than you. But, in true NPD fashion, you just had to
point out that at that moment Tom's attention was really on you,
rather than me (your arch nemesis ;-)

On Dec 30, 12:17*pm, "(Kelly)" wrote:
On Dec 30, 9:02*am, crunch wrote:

On Dec 29, 4:38*pm, (Ian Davis)
wrote:
I think the question was asked of Kelly. *If so David is just shoving an
oar in gratuitously, Ian.
Yet, if you re-read the thread, you will discover that
you are quite mistaken here. *I believe you yourself
are gratuitous in this context. *Please correct yourself
for the future.

Yeah...it' really stinks that he actually thought Tom was responding
to me, rather than you. *But, in true NPD fashion, you just had to
point out that at that moment Tom's attention was really on you,
rather than me (your arch nemesis ;-)

Liar!

You missed that Tom McDonald said "Thank-you"
in response to my answer to his question of me.

So, in order to clear your own twisted head, you
should contact Tom in order to convince yourself
that your sighting of NPD is quite mistaken.

And, you owe me a massive apology for your massive
outpouring of bunk Thiering Thesis and whether
or not David Christainsen is a professional meteorologist.

What a waste of time you are, Lazy!

-----

David Christainsen - Meteorologist

On Dec 30, 9:38*am, crunch wrote:
On Dec 30, 12:17*pm, "(Kelly)" wrote:

Yeah...it' really stinks that he actually thought Tom was responding
to me, rather than you. *But, in true NPD fashion, you just had to
point out that at that moment Tom's attention was really on you,
rather than me (your arch nemesis ;-)


Liar!

Which part do you think I'm lying about, Soggy?

You missed that Tom McDonald said "Thank-you"
in response to my answer to his question of me.

How would you know what I've missed and what I haven't. Are you
here? Are you in my head? Do you see with my eyes?

The answer to all of these is "no", ergo, it's impossible for you to
know one way or the other what I "missed" and what I didn't.

So, in order to clear your own twisted head, you
should contact Tom in order to convince yourself
that your sighting of NPD is quite mistaken.

Nope. I don't have to "contact Tom" about anything. He was talking
to you intially but was happy to discuss the whole thing with me in
light of your non-answer. As far as your NPD goes...I think pretty
much everyone here now realizes that it's the case with you.

And, you owe me a massive apology for your massive
outpouring of bunk Thiering Thesis and *whether
or not David Christainsen is a professional meteorologist.

No I don't. Thiering is a crackpot and you are not (and never have
been) a professional meteorologist.

What a waste of time you are, Lazy!

And yet, you keep reading and responding to my posts...go figure.

On Dec 30, 12:46*pm, "(Kelly)" wrote:
On Dec 30, 9:38*am, crunch wrote:

On Dec 30, 12:17*pm, "(Kelly)" wrote:

Yeah...it' really stinks that he actually thought Tom was responding
to me, rather than you. *But, in true NPD fashion, you just had to
point out that at that moment Tom's attention was really on you,
rather than me (your arch nemesis ;-)
Liar!

Which part do you think I'm lying about, Soggy?

You are lying about true NPD fashion, Lazy. Further, you
are making a sick joke about your being my arch nemesis.

You missed that Tom McDonald said "Thank-you"
in response to my answer to his question of me.

How would you know what I've missed and what I haven't. *Are you
here? *Are you in my head? *Do you see with my eyes?

Then why do you act so stupid in a social context?

The answer to all of these is "no", ergo, it's impossible for you to
know one way or the other what I "missed" and what I didn't.

Nice try but it doesn't cut the mustard.

So, in order to clear your own twisted head, you
should contact Tom in order to convince yourself
that your sighting of NPD is quite mistaken.

Nope. *I don't have to "contact Tom" about anything. *He was talking
to you intially but was happy to discuss the whole thing with me in
light of your non-answer. *As far as your NPD goes...I think pretty
much everyone here now realizes that it's the case with you.

Back up, I did not give a "non-answer"; you are blind here.
Back up, you are libeling me with your wild and reckless
charge of my alleged NPD.

And, you owe me a massive apology for your massive
outpouring of bunk Thiering Thesis and *whether
or not David Christainsen is a professional meteorologist.

No I don't.

Yes you do.

*Thiering is a crackpot and you are not (and never have
been) a professional meteorologist.

Here you are libeling Dr. Thiering. Here you are
libeling me.

What a waste of time you are, Lazy!

And yet, you keep reading and responding to my posts...go figure.

I am exposing you as profoundly ignorant and driving
it home all over usenet. Almost too late for you to take
your reckless behaviour back.

Peace,
David Christainsen - Meteorologist