On Apr 19, 11:25*am, Dawlish wrote:
On Apr 19, wrote:



On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 18, wrote:

On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote: "Eric Gisin" wrote in message



The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement outnumbers
the alarmist camp on the web. The solution: organize a campain of
alarmism in blog comments. Wonder when they'll invade usenet.

I think they are here already.

Yes, I was gonna say we've had AGW propagandists active on this NG for
ages. They seem to have lost a lot of steam in recent months though..

Giga - are you sure about what you've said here? See other thread.

I have to say Dawlish you are one of the few AGW propagandists who
have kept up the pretence even in the face of overwhelming evidence of
fraud and foolishness. I was referring to a more general trend and did
not mean to say that all individuals had started to loose some of
their fanatical evirothusiam.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pretence? It's easy, Giga. What possible reasons have denialists got
to smile at present*? Nothing points to what you wish to happen.

What do you wish to happen? Don't worry I know. You are hoping and
praying temperatures will go up and up. I wonder if you are capable of
seeing how insane that is?


*That is a serious question and the title of a discussion in which
denialists have, again, been very quiet...............

Just for you:

http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...?amsutemps+001

El Nino again.

"Giga2" wrote in message

On Apr 19, 11:25 am, Dawlish wrote:
On Apr 19, 9:44 wrote:



On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 18, 11:51 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote: "Eric
Gisin" wrote in message



The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement
outnumbers the alarmist camp on the web. The solution: organize
a campain of alarmism in blog comments. Wonder when they'll
invade usenet.

I think they are here already.

Yes, I was gonna say we've had AGW propagandists active on this
NG for
ages. They seem to have lost a lot of steam in recent months
though.

Giga - are you sure about what you've said here? See other thread.

I have to say Dawlish you are one of the few AGW propagandists who
have kept up the pretence even in the face of overwhelming evidence
of fraud and foolishness. I was referring to a more general trend
and did not mean to say that all individuals had started to loose
some of their fanatical evirothusiam.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pretence? It's easy, Giga. What possible reasons have denialists got
to smile at present*? Nothing points to what you wish to happen.

What do you wish to happen? Don't worry I know. You are hoping and
praying temperatures will go up and up. I wonder if you are capable of
seeing how insane that is?

He also cannot see that it's political. The climate farce is merely the
vehicle to get them to where they want to be so they compalin endlessly
when holes are spotted in their theory or something comes out debunking
one of their claims. The corruption found in the ones dealing in all
this never happened or was only minutia and isn't worth considering
according to most of them. As I posted a week or two ago, there are
several flavors of players in the enviro con game.

On Apr 19, 3:52*pm, "James" wrote:
"Giga2" wrote in message







On Apr 19, 11:25 am, Dawlish wrote:
On Apr 19, 9:44 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 18, 11:51 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote: "Eric
Gisin" wrote in message



The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement
outnumbers the alarmist camp on the web. The solution: organize
a campain of alarmism in blog comments. Wonder when they'll
invade usenet.

I think they are here already.

Yes, I was gonna say we've had AGW propagandists active on this
NG for
ages. They seem to have lost a lot of steam in recent months
though.

Giga - are you sure about what you've said here? See other thread.

I have to say Dawlish you are one of the few AGW propagandists who
have kept up the pretence even in the face of overwhelming evidence
of fraud and foolishness. I was referring to a more general trend
and did not mean to say that all individuals had started to loose
some of their fanatical evirothusiam.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pretence? It's easy, Giga. What possible reasons have denialists got
to smile at present*? Nothing points to what you wish to happen.

What do you wish to happen? Don't worry I know. You are hoping and
praying temperatures will go up and up. I wonder if you are capable of
seeing how insane that is?

He also cannot see that it's political. The climate farce is merely the
vehicle to get them to where they want to be so they compalin endlessly
when holes are spotted in their theory or something comes out debunking
one of their claims. The corruption found in the ones dealing in all
this never happened or was only minutia and isn't worth considering
according to most of them. As I posted a week or two ago, there are
several flavors of players in the enviro con game.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ah, the political conspiracy theory raises it's ugly but strangely-
difficult-to-quantify-or provide-evidence-for head.

I don't see you debunking any theory James by finding these "holes"?
Neither do I see you producing evidence of "corruption" James?

I do see you hugely upset about the world. It's a nice place really.

On Apr 19, 2:09*pm, Giga2 wrote:
On Apr 19, 11:25*am, Dawlish wrote:





On Apr 19, wrote:

On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 18, wrote:

On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote: "Eric Gisin" wrote in message



The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement outnumbers
the alarmist camp on the web. The solution: organize a campain of
alarmism in blog comments. Wonder when they'll invade usenet.

I think they are here already.

Yes, I was gonna say we've had AGW propagandists active on this NG for
ages. They seem to have lost a lot of steam in recent months though.

Giga - are you sure about what you've said here? See other thread.

I have to say Dawlish you are one of the few AGW propagandists who
have kept up the pretence even in the face of overwhelming evidence of
fraud and foolishness. I was referring to a more general trend and did
not mean to say that all individuals had started to loose some of
their fanatical evirothusiam.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pretence? It's easy, Giga. What possible reasons have denialists got
to smile at present*? Nothing points to what you wish to happen.

What do you wish to happen? Don't worry I know. You are hoping and
praying temperatures will go up and up. I wonder if you are capable of
seeing how insane that is?



*That is a serious question and the title of a discussion in which
denialists have, again, been very quiet...............

Just for you:

http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...?amsutemps+001

El Nino again.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Here we go again - same question to you as I've asked many times.

a) If it is due to this moderate El Nino, why wasn't it warmer in 1998
during the super El Nino?

b) How has this moderate El Nino managed to create record global
temperatures when we have an extended solar minimum and a negative
PDO?

Any answers Giga?

"Dawlish" wrote in message

On Apr 19, 3:52 pm, "James" wrote:
"Giga2" wrote in message







On Apr 19, 11:25 am, Dawlish wrote:
On Apr 19, 9:44 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 18, 11:51 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote: "Eric
Gisin" wrote in message



The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement
outnumbers the alarmist camp on the web. The solution:
organize a campain of alarmism in blog comments. Wonder when
they'll invade usenet.

I think they are here already.

Yes, I was gonna say we've had AGW propagandists active on this
NG for
ages. They seem to have lost a lot of steam in recent months
though.

Giga - are you sure about what you've said here? See other
thread.

I have to say Dawlish you are one of the few AGW propagandists who
have kept up the pretence even in the face of overwhelming
evidence of fraud and foolishness. I was referring to a more
general trend and did not mean to say that all individuals had
started to loose some of their fanatical evirothusiam.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pretence? It's easy, Giga. What possible reasons have denialists
got to smile at present*? Nothing points to what you wish to
happen.

What do you wish to happen? Don't worry I know. You are hoping and
praying temperatures will go up and up. I wonder if you are capable
of seeing how insane that is?

He also cannot see that it's political. The climate farce is merely
the vehicle to get them to where they want to be so they compalin
endlessly when holes are spotted in their theory or something comes
out debunking one of their claims. The corruption found in the ones
dealing in all this never happened or was only minutia and isn't
worth considering according to most of them. As I posted a week or
two ago, there are several flavors of players in the enviro con
game.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ah, the political conspiracy theory raises it's ugly but strangely-
difficult-to-quantify-or provide-evidence-for head.

It's hard to believe you are that stupid.


I don't see you debunking any theory James by finding these "holes"?
Neither do I see you producing evidence of "corruption" James?

The evidence has been everywhere whether I produced it or not. The fact
that you don't want to know about it is typical for any troll or liar
who comes to the group and feigns surprise at things he says he knows
all about and proceeds to set them all straight. You really aren't very
good at this.


I do see you hugely upset about the world. It's a nice place really.

--
In my long career, knowing hundreds and hundreds of scientists.....
Dawlish - 4/9/2010


The fact that I've known hundreds of university educated scientists and
come into contact with them on a professional basis daily, allowed me to
judge a sense of feeling about their capacity for scepticism.. Dawlish
4/17/2010

On Apr 19, 4:48*pm, "James" wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message







On Apr 19, 3:52 pm, "James" wrote:
"Giga2" wrote in message



On Apr 19, 11:25 am, Dawlish wrote:
On Apr 19, 9:44 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 18, 11:51 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote: "Eric
Gisin" wrote in message



The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement
outnumbers the alarmist camp on the web. The solution:
organize a campain of alarmism in blog comments. Wonder when
they'll invade usenet.

I think they are here already.

Yes, I was gonna say we've had AGW propagandists active on this
NG for
ages. They seem to have lost a lot of steam in recent months
though.

Giga - are you sure about what you've said here? See other
thread.

I have to say Dawlish you are one of the few AGW propagandists who
have kept up the pretence even in the face of overwhelming
evidence of fraud and foolishness. I was referring to a more
general trend and did not mean to say that all individuals had
started to loose some of their fanatical evirothusiam.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pretence? It's easy, Giga. What possible reasons have denialists
got to smile at present*? Nothing points to what you wish to
happen.

What do you wish to happen? Don't worry I know. You are hoping and
praying temperatures will go up and up. I wonder if you are capable
of seeing how insane that is?

He also cannot see that it's political. The climate farce is merely
the vehicle to get them to where they want to be so they compalin
endlessly when holes are spotted in their theory or something comes
out debunking one of their claims. The corruption found in the ones
dealing in all this never happened or was only minutia and isn't
worth considering according to most of them. As I posted a week or
two ago, there are several flavors of players in the enviro con
game.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ah, the political conspiracy theory raises it's ugly but strangely-
difficult-to-quantify-or provide-evidence-for head.

It's hard to believe you are that stupid.



I don't see you debunking any theory James by finding these "holes"?
Neither do I see you producing evidence of "corruption" James?

The evidence has been everywhere whether I produced it or not. The fact
that you don't want to know about it is typical for any troll or liar
who comes to the group and feigns surprise at things he says he knows
all about and proceeds to set them all straight. You really aren't very
good at this.



I do see you hugely upset about the world. It's a nice place really.

--
In my long career, knowing hundreds and hundreds of scientists.....
Dawlish - 4/9/2010

The fact that I've known hundreds of university educated scientists and
come into contact with them on a professional basis daily, allowed me to
judge a sense of feeling about their capacity for scepticism.. Dawlish
4/17/2010- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ah! The evidence is everywhere! Damn.Must have missed it then,
together with the rest of the scientific world.

Troll, liar........ nice insults. Evidence/science: none. Oh well. *))

On 19 Apr, 07:35, josephus wrote:
Giga2 wrote:
On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 18, 11:51 am, Giga2 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote: "Eric Gisin" wrote in message



The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement outnumbers
the alarmist camp on the web. The solution: organize a campain of
alarmism in blog comments. Wonder when they'll invade usenet.

I think they are here already.

Yes, I was gonna say we've had AGW propagandists active on this NG for
ages. They seem to have lost a lot of steam in recent months though.

Giga - are you sure about what you've said here? See other thread.

I have to say Dawlish you are one of the few AGW propagandists who
have kept up the pretence even in the face of overwhelming evidence of
fraud and foolishness. I was referring to a more general trend and did
not mean to say that all individuals had started to loose some of
their fanatical evirothusiam.

ok *give us the emails with the fraud, *wait those are from gig2. *he
lies about the emails *he claims they were running a fraud. *and that
statement alone is indicative of a deliberate intention to LIE.

josephus
--
ÿþI

At some point a sensible person has to say 'so many mistakes amount to
deliberate fraud'.

On 19 Apr, 15:52, "James" wrote:
"Giga2" wrote in message





On Apr 19, 11:25 am, Dawlish wrote:
On Apr 19, 9:44 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 18, 11:51 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote: "Eric
Gisin" wrote in message



The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement
outnumbers the alarmist camp on the web. The solution: organize
a campain of alarmism in blog comments. Wonder when they'll
invade usenet.

I think they are here already.

Yes, I was gonna say we've had AGW propagandists active on this
NG for
ages. They seem to have lost a lot of steam in recent months
though.

Giga - are you sure about what you've said here? See other thread.

I have to say Dawlish you are one of the few AGW propagandists who
have kept up the pretence even in the face of overwhelming evidence
of fraud and foolishness. I was referring to a more general trend
and did not mean to say that all individuals had started to loose
some of their fanatical evirothusiam.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pretence? It's easy, Giga. What possible reasons have denialists got
to smile at present*? Nothing points to what you wish to happen.

What do you wish to happen? Don't worry I know. You are hoping and
praying temperatures will go up and up. I wonder if you are capable of
seeing how insane that is?

He also cannot see that it's political. The climate farce is merely the
vehicle to get them to where they want to be so they compalin endlessly
when holes are spotted in their theory or something comes out debunking
one of their claims. The corruption found in the ones dealing in all
this never happened or was only minutia and isn't worth considering
according to most of them. As I posted a week or two ago, there are
several flavors of players in the enviro con game.

Its worth remembering how many different warped motivations are behind
AGW fundamentalism.

On 19 Apr, 16:05, Dawlish wrote:
On Apr 19, 2:09*pm, Giga2 wrote:



On Apr 19, 11:25*am, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 19, wrote:

On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 18, wrote:

On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote: "Eric Gisin" wrote in message



The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement outnumbers
the alarmist camp on the web. The solution: organize a campain of
alarmism in blog comments. Wonder when they'll invade usenet.

"Dawlish" wrote in message

On Apr 19, 2:09 pm, Giga2 wrote:
On Apr 19, 11:25 am, Dawlish wrote:





On Apr 19, 9:44 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 18, 11:51 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote: "Eric
Gisin" wrote in message



The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement
outnumbers the alarmist camp on the web. The solution:
organize a campain of alarmism in blog comments. Wonder when
they'll invade usenet.

I think they are here already.

Yes, I was gonna say we've had AGW propagandists active on this
NG for
ages. They seem to have lost a lot of steam in recent months
though.

Giga - are you sure about what you've said here? See other thread.

I have to say Dawlish you are one of the few AGW propagandists who
have kept up the pretence even in the face of overwhelming
evidence of fraud and foolishness. I was referring to a more
general trend and did not mean to say that all individuals had
started to loose some of their fanatical evirothusiam.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pretence? It's easy, Giga. What possible reasons have denialists got
to smile at present*? Nothing points to what you wish to happen.

What do you wish to happen? Don't worry I know. You are hoping and
praying temperatures will go up and up. I wonder if you are capable
of seeing how insane that is?



*That is a serious question and the title of a discussion in which
denialists have, again, been very quiet...............

Just for you:

http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...?amsutemps+001

El Nino again.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Here we go again - same question to you as I've asked many times.

a) If it is due to this moderate El Nino, why wasn't it warmer in 1998
during the super El Nino?

b) How has this moderate El Nino managed to create record global
temperatures when we have an extended solar minimum and a negative
PDO?

Any answers Giga?

Old stuff. It must be AGW. What else could it be? That is an admission
that faith rules in the AGW issue. May Gaia be with you.