"josephus" wrote in message
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James wrote:

"Dawlish" wrote in message


On Apr 19, 3:52 pm, "James" wrote:

"Giga2" wrote in message







On Apr 19, 11:25 am, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 19, 9:44 wrote:


On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:


On Apr 18, 11:51 wrote:


On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote: "Eric
Gisin" wrote in message





The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement
outnumbers the alarmist camp on the web. The solution:
organize a campain of alarmism in blog comments. Wonder when
they'll invade usenet.


I think they are here already.


Yes, I was gonna say we've had AGW propagandists active on
this NG for
ages. They seem to have lost a lot of steam in recent months
though.


Giga - are you sure about what you've said here? See other
thread.


I have to say Dawlish you are one of the few AGW propagandists
who have kept up the pretence even in the face of overwhelming
evidence of fraud and foolishness. I was referring to a more
general trend and did not mean to say that all individuals had
started to loose some of their fanatical evirothusiam.- Hide
quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Pretence? It's easy, Giga. What possible reasons have denialists
got to smile at present*? Nothing points to what you wish to
happen.


What do you wish to happen? Don't worry I know. You are hoping and
praying temperatures will go up and up. I wonder if you are
capable of seeing how insane that is?


He also cannot see that it's political. The climate farce is merely
the vehicle to get them to where they want to be so they compalin
endlessly when holes are spotted in their theory or something comes
out debunking one of their claims. The corruption found in the ones
dealing in all this never happened or was only minutia and isn't
worth considering according to most of them. As I posted a week or
two ago, there are several flavors of players in the enviro con
game.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Ah, the political conspiracy theory raises it's ugly but strangely-
difficult-to-quantify-or provide-evidence-for head.


It's hard to believe you are that stupid.


I don't see you debunking any theory James by finding these "holes"?
Neither do I see you producing evidence of "corruption" James?


The evidence has been everywhere whether I produced it or not. The
fact that you don't want to know about it is typical for any troll
or liar who comes to the group and feigns surprise at things he says
he knows all about and proceeds to set them all straight. You really
aren't very good at this.


I do see you hugely upset about the world. It's a nice place really.



put up your cherry picked lies. I will seach and find the emails they
come out of. it is true they were ass holes but EVERYBODY in email
turns into one sooner or later. but it does not mean anybody is doing
anything the deniers are LYING about. the horrible truth is 3
different groups exhonerated the workers. it means the deniers
FAILED big time.

josephus

Cherry picked? These are obvious patterns of deception and for you and
the mutual admiration society of investigators to barely smack them on
the wrist like toddlers shows your and their own dishonesty to have your
way like any spoiled brat. The level of immaturity from you adolecent
minded saviors is astounding.

On Apr 20, 3:42*pm, "James" wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message







On Apr 19, 2:09 pm, Giga2 wrote:
On Apr 19, 11:25 am, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 19, 9:44 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 18, 11:51 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote: "Eric
Gisin" wrote in message



The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement
outnumbers the alarmist camp on the web. The solution:
organize a campain of alarmism in blog comments. Wonder when
they'll invade usenet.

I think they are here already.

Yes, I was gonna say we've had AGW propagandists active on this
NG for
ages. They seem to have lost a lot of steam in recent months
though.

Giga - are you sure about what you've said here? See other thread.

I have to say Dawlish you are one of the few AGW propagandists who
have kept up the pretence even in the face of overwhelming
evidence of fraud and foolishness. I was referring to a more
general trend and did not mean to say that all individuals had
started to loose some of their fanatical evirothusiam.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pretence? It's easy, Giga. What possible reasons have denialists got
to smile at present*? Nothing points to what you wish to happen.

What do you wish to happen? Don't worry I know. You are hoping and
praying temperatures will go up and up. I wonder if you are capable
of seeing how insane that is?

*That is a serious question and the title of a discussion in which
denialists have, again, been very quiet...............

Just for you:

http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...?amsutemps+001

El Nino again.- Hide quoted text -

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Here we go again - same question to you as I've asked many times.

a) If it is due to this moderate El Nino, why wasn't it warmer in 1998
during the super El Nino?

b) How has this moderate El Nino managed to create record global
temperatures when we have an extended solar minimum and a negative
PDO?

Any answers Giga?

Old stuff. It must be AGW. What else could it be? That is an admission
that faith rules in the AGW issue. May Gaia be with you.- Hide quoted text -

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Yes, it's old enough to have happened over the last 5 and 7 years and
it has been exemplified by this moderate El Nino producing record
global temperatures despite both cooling processes at work.The answer,
as you rightly say is most probably AGW. That hardly an admission of
faith, that's just by far the most obvious conclusion from the data
and the one that suggested itself to you too.

I don't suppose you could suggest another cause for these temperatures
in an extended solar minimum and with a negative PDO?

On Apr 20, 3:52*pm, "James" wrote:
"josephus" wrote in message

m





James wrote:

"Dawlish" wrote in message


On Apr 19, 3:52 pm, "James" wrote:

"Giga2" wrote in message



On Apr 19, 11:25 am, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 19, 9:44 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 18, 11:51 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote: "Eric
Gisin" wrote in message



The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement
outnumbers the alarmist camp on the web. The solution:
organize a campain of alarmism in blog comments. Wonder when
they'll invade usenet.

I think they are here already.

Yes, I was gonna say we've had AGW propagandists active on
this NG for
ages. They seem to have lost a lot of steam in recent months
though.

Giga - are you sure about what you've said here? See other
thread.

I have to say Dawlish you are one of the few AGW propagandists
who have kept up the pretence even in the face of overwhelming
evidence of fraud and foolishness. I was referring to a more
general trend and did not mean to say that all individuals had
started to loose some of their fanatical evirothusiam.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pretence? It's easy, Giga. What possible reasons have denialists
got to smile at present*? Nothing points to what you wish to
happen.

What do you wish to happen? Don't worry I know. You are hoping and
praying temperatures will go up and up. I wonder if you are
capable of seeing how insane that is?

He also cannot see that it's political. The climate farce is merely
the vehicle to get them to where they want to be so they compalin
endlessly when holes are spotted in their theory or something comes
out debunking one of their claims. The corruption found in the ones
dealing in all this never happened or was only minutia and isn't
worth considering according to most of them. As I posted a week or
two ago, there are several flavors of players in the enviro con
game.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ah, the political conspiracy theory raises it's ugly but strangely-
difficult-to-quantify-or provide-evidence-for head.

It's hard to believe you are that stupid.

I don't see you debunking any theory James by finding these "holes"?
Neither do I see you producing evidence of "corruption" James?

The evidence has been everywhere whether I produced it or not. The
fact that you don't want to know about it is typical for any troll
or liar who comes to the group and feigns surprise at things he says
he knows all about and proceeds to set them all straight. You really
aren't very good at this.

I do see you hugely upset about the world. It's a nice place really.

put up your cherry picked lies. *I will seach and find the emails they
come out of. *it is true they were ass holes but EVERYBODY in email
turns into one sooner or later. *but it does not mean anybody is doing
anything the deniers are LYING about. *the horrible truth is *3
different groups exhonerated the workers. * it means the deniers
FAILED big time.

josephus

Cherry picked? These are obvious patterns of deception and for you and
the mutual admiration society of investigators to barely smack them on
the wrist like toddlers shows your and their own dishonesty to have your
way like any spoiled brat. The level of immaturity from you adolecent
minded saviors is astounding.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Again, James, your opinion.It's backed by a fair dosage of bile, but
all it is, is your opinion. It's not backed by the facts. No-one can
do anything about that.Maybe one day your opinions will change. Mine
have and if mine have, anyone's can.

"Dawlish" wrote in message

On Apr 20, 3:52 pm, "James" wrote:
"josephus" wrote in message

m





James wrote:

"Dawlish" wrote in message


On Apr 19, 3:52 pm, "James" wrote:

"Giga2" wrote in message



On Apr 19, 11:25 am, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 19, 9:44 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 13:04, Dawlish wrote:

On Apr 18, 11:51 wrote:

On 18 Apr, 02:54, "James" wrote:
"Eric Gisin" wrote in message



The left is ****ed of that a grass-roots skeptic movement
outnumbers the alarmist camp on the web. The solution:
organize a campain of alarmism in blog comments. Wonder
when they'll invade usenet.

I think they are here already.

Yes, I was gonna say we've had AGW propagandists active on
this NG for
ages. They seem to have lost a lot of steam in recent months
though.

Giga - are you sure about what you've said here? See other
thread.

I have to say Dawlish you are one of the few AGW propagandists
who have kept up the pretence even in the face of overwhelming
evidence of fraud and foolishness. I was referring to a more
general trend and did not mean to say that all individuals had
started to loose some of their fanatical evirothusiam.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pretence? It's easy, Giga. What possible reasons have
denialists got to smile at present*? Nothing points to what
you wish to happen.

What do you wish to happen? Don't worry I know. You are hoping
and praying temperatures will go up and up. I wonder if you are
capable of seeing how insane that is?

He also cannot see that it's political. The climate farce is
merely the vehicle to get them to where they want to be so they
compalin endlessly when holes are spotted in their theory or
something comes out debunking one of their claims. The
corruption found in the ones dealing in all this never happened
or was only minutia and isn't worth considering according to
most of them. As I posted a week or two ago, there are several
flavors of players in the enviro con game.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ah, the political conspiracy theory raises it's ugly but
strangely- difficult-to-quantify-or provide-evidence-for head.

It's hard to believe you are that stupid.

I don't see you debunking any theory James by finding these
"holes"? Neither do I see you producing evidence of "corruption"
James?

The evidence has been everywhere whether I produced it or not. The
fact that you don't want to know about it is typical for any troll
or liar who comes to the group and feigns surprise at things he
says he knows all about and proceeds to set them all straight. You
really aren't very good at this.

I do see you hugely upset about the world. It's a nice place
really.

put up your cherry picked lies. I will seach and find the emails
they come out of. it is true they were ass holes but EVERYBODY in
email turns into one sooner or later. but it does not mean anybody
is doing anything the deniers are LYING about. the horrible truth
is 3 different groups exhonerated the workers. it means the deniers
FAILED big time.

josephus

Cherry picked? These are obvious patterns of deception and for you
and the mutual admiration society of investigators to barely smack
them on the wrist like toddlers shows your and their own dishonesty
to have your way like any spoiled brat. The level of immaturity from
you adolecent minded saviors is astounding.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Again, James, your opinion.It's backed by a fair dosage of bile, but
all it is, is your opinion. It's not backed by the facts. No-one can
do anything about that.Maybe one day your opinions will change. Mine
have and if mine have, anyone's can.

Of couse it's my opinion you idiot. The thing is, that it dovetails well
into other's opinion. Another opinion backed by fact is that you have no
idea what you are talking about most of the time. Your opinion will
never change. That's why you troll and lie.

Always tell the truth. That way you never have to remember what you
said.