"George152" wrote in message
On 2/15/2012 10:11 AM, Regnad Kcin wrote:

[Your "probably" is a surmise that has no basis in fact. The reasons
for any global warming are not yet known other than it is believe to
be Solar Cycle derived. Proof? Simple. Look at the planetary probe
data and you see the same effect on other planets. You can't blame CO2
for that. You are NO KIND of Scientist.]

Dawlish is a little old funny man in a cardigan and carpet slippers.
Retarded from teaching I'd guess

hehe... OK. =])

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On Feb 14, 2:10*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Feb 14, 7:29*pm, Tunderbar wrote:









On Feb 14, 12:17*pm, "Regnad Kcin" wrote:

"Speedbump" wrote in message

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On Feb 13, 2:31 pm, Tunderbar wrote:

On Feb 13, 4:04 pm, enigma wrote:

Arctic warms to highest level yet as researchers fear tipping points

Jeremy Hance
mongabay.com

February 13, 2012

http://news.mongabay.com/2012/0213-h...ingpoints.html

oops....

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/...&fd=10&fy=1979...

It's still there....

Hey ****er it is still winter you jackass. *Try looking at this in
september moron

Ok idiot. Just as soon as you explain why that makes a difference and
why a snap shot thirty years apart in February shows little or no ice
loss.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How many times do you have to make an idiot of yourself over this? A
snapshot of February ice in 2100 will not show an immense amount of
difference to 1979, never mind February 2012. February in the Arctic
is bloody cold. It was in 1979, it is now and it will be at the end of
this century. The sea will be frozen in February 2100, as it is frozen
now. It always been frozen in human history in February and it very
probably probably always will be. The fact that you don't understand
why that happens is a problem of yours; no-one else's.

September, however, is a very different time of year and there is
*highly likely* to be no ice in the Arctic in September 2100 and there
won't have been for at least 50 years. The reason will have been
global warming and the cause of that will, very probably, have been
anthropomorphic CO2.

cherry picking LOL

On Feb 14, 10:00*pm, matt_sykes wrote:
On Feb 13, 11:04*pm, enigma wrote:

Arctic warms to highest level yet as researchers fear tipping points

Jeremy Hance
mongabay.com

February 13, 2012

http://news.mongabay.com/2012/0213-h...ingpoints.html

Thats right, after all the arctic has NEVER been as warm as today at
anoy point in the past has it. *Surely if it WAS it would have gone
past a tipping point and not come back!

Straw man alert.

It seems to be a bit of a myth that a "tipping point" always involves
irreversibility or "unable to
return to given state by any circuitous route whatever".

It may. Or it may not.

The usual usages do not -- simply that one stable state is changed to
another stable state, usually
"suddenly".

Even "irreversibility" in the classic reductionist sense doesn't
dictate that a state becomes forever unreachable --
just that if A - B is irreversible then we can't have B - A.

Another thing to watch out for is 1d thinking. When it comes to the
"environment" it just doesn't do to imagine (loosest possible sense of
the technical term, given the context) a "state" consists of a single
variable -- e.g. temperature.

Finally, there is little that a mass extinction or other planet-
killing event can't reset the clock to zero.

Of course they are the things some of us are trying to avoid and
others deny are possible.

--
[Feel the meta-evidence, Luke:]
The great thing about science is that once you understand it you tend
to defend it, especially against pretenders to science like the agw
activists here and at various institutions like the CRU, GISS, Penn
State and against political activists at the IPCC and Greenpeace.
-- Tunderbar , 8 Jul 2011 11:05 -0700 (PDT)

On Feb 15, 9:31*am, George152 wrote:
....
Dawlish is a little old funny man in a cardigan and carpet slippers.
Retarded from teaching I'd guess

Guess?

Project much?

--
[Thanking backers of a $16 bn gas project for deciding to go ahead:]
The millions of dollars in state royalties this project will generate
will
help bolster the state's economic recovery after the devastating
floods. At
times like this we need to be able to look to the future with hope and
optimism and the LNG industry will play an important part in our
State's
recovery from this flood crisis.
-- Qld Prem Bligh, 13 Jan 2011

On Feb 15, 8:43*am, kym wrote:
On Feb 14, 10:00*pm, matt_sykes wrote:

On Feb 13, 11:04*pm, enigma wrote:

Arctic warms to highest level yet as researchers fear tipping points

Jeremy Hance
mongabay.com

February 13, 2012

http://news.mongabay.com/2012/0213-h...ingpoints.html

Thats right, after all the arctic has NEVER been as warm as today at
anoy point in the past has it. *Surely if it WAS it would have gone
past a tipping point and not come back!

Straw man alert.

It seems to be a bit of a myth that a "tipping point" always involves
irreversibility or "unable to
return to given state by any circuitous route whatever".

It may. Or it may not.

The usual usages do not -- simply that one stable state is changed to
another stable state, usually
"suddenly".

Even "irreversibility" in the classic reductionist sense doesn't
dictate that a state becomes forever unreachable --
just that if A - B is irreversible then we can't have B - A.

Another thing to watch out for is 1d thinking. When it comes to the
"environment" it just doesn't do to imagine (loosest possible sense of
the technical term, given the context) a "state" consists of a single
variable -- e.g. temperature.

Finally, there is little that a mass extinction or other planet-
killing event can't reset the clock to zero.

Of course they are the things some of us are trying to avoid and
others deny are possible.

--
[Feel the meta-evidence, Luke:]
The great thing about science is that once you understand it you tend
to defend it, especially against pretenders to science like the agw
activists here and at various institutions like the CRU, GISS, Penn
State and against political activists at the IPCC and Greenpeace.
-- Tunderbar , 8 Jul 2011 11:05 -0700 (PDT)

So you admit it has beenwarmer at the north pole before, that the ice
was much reduced or gone entirely and that as it got colder it
returned.


So whats the problem if it does the same thing now?

On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:54:11 -0700, AGWFacts
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:31:19 -0800 (PST), Tunderbar
wrote:

On Feb 13, 4:04*pm, enigma wrote:
Arctic warms to highest level yet as researchers fear tipping points

Jeremy Hance
mongabay.com

February 13, 2012

http://news.mongabay.com/2012/0213-h...ingpoints.html

"Last year the Arctic, which is warming faster than anywhere else
on Earth due to global climate change, experienced its warmest
twelve months yet."

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/...&sd=10&sy=2012

It's still there....

Idiot.

See? Amazing.


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"I am not ignorant simply because I choose to believe one
theory over another." -- Madison Murphy