On 3/3/12 4:12 PM, Last Post wrote:
Less deserts, more fresh water resources, more
extreme weather, ocean ph remains static, sea
levels remain constant, and increasing CO2.

That's a good one Leonard--We'll continue to make observations
over time and see what happens. :-o

On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:54:33 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 3/3/12 4:12 PM, Last Post wrote:
Less deserts, more fresh water resources, more extreme weather, ocean
ph remains static, sea levels remain constant, and increasing CO2.

That's a good one Leonard--We'll continue to make observations over
time and see what happens. :-o

The observation is that the Sahel -the southern Sahara desert border- has
been greening again during the last decades. Your theory on more desert
doesn't account for this. Do you have an explanation?

On 3/3/12 11:16 PM, Paul Aubrin wrote:
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:54:33 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 3/3/12 4:12 PM, Last Post wrote:
Less deserts, more fresh water resources, more extreme weather, ocean
ph remains static, sea levels remain constant, and increasing CO2.

That's a good one Leonard--We'll continue to make observations over
time and see what happens. :-o

The observation is that the Sahel -the southern Sahara desert border- has
been greening again during the last decades. Your theory on more desert
doesn't account for this. Do you have an explanation?


Globally, not locally.

On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 23:19:50 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 3/3/12 11:16 PM, Paul Aubrin wrote:
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:54:33 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 3/3/12 4:12 PM, Last Post wrote:
Less deserts, more fresh water resources, more extreme weather, ocean
ph remains static, sea levels remain constant, and increasing CO2.

That's a good one Leonard--We'll continue to make observations
over time and see what happens. :-o

The observation is that the Sahel -the southern Sahara desert border-
has been greening again during the last decades. Your theory on more
desert doesn't account for this. Do you have an explanation?


Globally, not locally
I have presented a huge exception (700,000 sq. Km) to your ad hoc
allegation. I would have expected something more substantial in your
answer. I don't trust you on your mere words.

On 3/4/12 1:38 AM, Paul Aubrin wrote:
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 23:19:50 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 3/3/12 11:16 PM, Paul Aubrin wrote:
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:54:33 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 3/3/12 4:12 PM, Last Post wrote:
Less deserts, more fresh water resources, more extreme weather, ocean
ph remains static, sea levels remain constant, and increasing CO2.

That's a good one Leonard--We'll continue to make observations
over time and see what happens. :-o

The observation is that the Sahel -the southern Sahara desert border-
has been greening again during the last decades. Your theory on more
desert doesn't account for this. Do you have an explanation?


Globally, not locally
I have presented a huge exception (700,000 sq. Km) to your ad hoc
allegation. I would have expected something more substantial in your
answer. I don't trust you on your mere words.


You ignore the global trend.

IPCC Fourth Assessment Report
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm

Global Warming (Overview from Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

NOAA Climate Monitoring
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php

U.S. Global Change Research Program
http://www.globalchange.gov/

On 04 Mar 2012 07:38:35 GMT, Paul Aubrin wrote:

On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 23:19:50 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 3/3/12 11:16 PM, Paul Aubrin wrote:
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:54:33 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 3/3/12 4:12 PM, Last Post wrote:
Less deserts, more fresh water resources, more extreme weather, ocean
ph remains static, sea levels remain constant, and increasing CO2.

That's a good one Leonard--We'll continue to make observations
over time and see what happens. :-o

The observation is that the Sahel -the southern Sahara desert border-
has been greening again during the last decades. Your theory on more
desert doesn't account for this. Do you have an explanation?


Globally, not locally
I have presented a huge exception (700,000 sq. Km) to your ad hoc
allegation. I would have expected something more substantial in your
answer. I don't trust you on your mere words.



Do you seriously imagine that anyone trusts yours? Just who is
supposed to have "observed" this alleged greening of the Sahel?

"Over-farming, over-grazing, and over-population of marginal lands
and natural soil erosion have caused serious desertification of
the region.[8][9]

"Major dust storms are a frequent occurrence, as well. During
November 2004, a number of major dust storms hit the Chad,
Nigeria, and northern Cameroon, originating in the Bodélé
Depression.[10] This is a common area for dust storms (occurring,
on average, 100 days every year)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahel

"A large-scale, drought-induced famine occurred in Africa's Sahel
region and many parts of the neighboring Sénégal River Area and
Horn of Africa from February to August 2010. It is one of many
famines to have hit the region in recent times.[3] . . . .

"The Western donor nations once theorised that the drought in the
Sahel primarily was caused by humans over-using natural resources
in the region through overgrazing, deforestation[12] and poor land
management.[13][14] In the late 1990s, climate model studies
suggested that large-scale climate changes were also triggers for
the drought. . . .

"The Sahel’s farmers are largely cleared of blame for the 20th
century’s Sahel droughts.[18] The Sahel region’s droughts in the
1970s and 1980s were caused by the recent warming of the Indian
Ocean, and not by over farming causing environmental degradation
as previously assumed, according to a new joint Scidev/UN
study.[18] With both a 3.5 C. rise in the Niger's temperature over
the last decade and with irrigated land accounting for only 0.1%
of the Niger's inhabitable land, made a regular famine crisis
inevitable in most years. Acute water shortages are common in the
region's harsh weather so making irrigation systems all the more
important for the local farmers.[19][20][21]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Sahel_drought


Yeppers, sure sounds like a garden spot.


--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]

On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:54:33 -0600, Sam Wormley
wrote:

On 3/3/12 4:12 PM, Last Post wrote:

Less deserts, more fresh water resources, more
extreme weather, ocean ph remains static, sea
levels remain constant, and increasing CO2.

Only the last item on the list is happening.

That's a good one Leonard--We'll continue to make observations
over time and see what happens. :-o

His "observations" will be the same as above. He has been ordered
to believe human-caused climate change is a good thing, that it
has improved life on Earth, and that it never happened.


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"I said that I believe in GOOD SCIENCE, not scientific THEORIES made
up by the antichrist. In order for one creature to EVOLVE into another,
the DNA has to change. How do you explain that?" --