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Forum: sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) April 30th 05, 07:48 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 328
Posted By Michael Tobis
An Example of Fossil Fool Science

Maybe we should just ask everyone posting to this list whether or not
they believe the earth to be over a million years old.

This will tell us who is arguing from evidence current as of 1850...
Forum: sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) March 31st 05, 06:29 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 320
Posted By Michael Tobis
Britain's top climatologist backs global warming claims

The science is settled and don't ask questions.

Questioning authority is often worthwhile. Not listening to the answers
isn't.

mt
Forum: sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) January 17th 05, 01:28 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,230
Posted By Michael Tobis
Greenhouse Gases Now Most Significant

Steve Schulin wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

I was sloppy about top and bottom, and probably was sloppy
elsewhere in
...
Forum: sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) January 11th 05, 11:27 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,230
Posted By Michael Tobis
Greenhouse Gases Now Most Significant

You can apply basic physical principles anywhere, and if done
correctly, you can integrate them over lines, surfaces and volumes.
Top, bottom, middle. Doesn't matter.

Or you can advocate that...
Forum: sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) January 10th 05, 09:53 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,230
Posted By Michael Tobis
Greenhouse Gases Now Most Significant

Got a page number?

It didn't take me long to find this on p 63:

"The current global mean top-of-the-atmosphere radiative forcing
concept ... has both strengths and limitations. ... The concept...
Forum: sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) January 10th 05, 07:40 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 833
Posted By Michael Tobis
Pooh-poohing global warming off base

A global increase in water temperature will cause a rise in sea level.
Unlike many things in geophysics, this is instantaneous.

A local increase will be smeared out.

An increase in the top km may...
Forum: sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) January 7th 05, 11:50 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 833
Posted By Michael Tobis
Pooh-poohing global warming off base

Remarkably, a4b is exactly right here.

The precipitable water will go up a bit, but that is pretty trivial
compared to melting land ice and thermal expansion. Sea level will go
up as the ocean warms...
Forum: sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) January 7th 05, 11:46 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,230
Posted By Michael Tobis
Greenhouse Gases Now Most Significant

Roger, thanks for the info. Could you explain where you got it?

Atheist, albedo is not a forcing.

"Land use" is in fact land surface albedo forcing so it's already
accounted for.

Cloud and ice...
Forum: sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) October 22nd 04, 09:30 AM
Replies: 57
Views: 3,383
Posted By Michael Tobis
REALITIES OF GLOBAL WARMING

Richard wrote:

right .. so why are we soooo concerned about CO2-levels? Apparently
there isn't a direct correlation between CO2-levels and rising-temperatures.

We need to...
Forum: sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) December 17th 03, 08:31 PM
Replies: 0
Views: 236
Posted By Michael Tobis
introduction to NetCDF

Any NetCDF documentation I could find were relatively opaque for a
novice.

It seems to me that writing and using simple NetCDF is a common enough
task that there should be an accessible tutorial. So...
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