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There's a fuller version of this story in today's Daily Mail (with the
usual "this-is-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it" Daily Mail spin on
it).

- Tom.
Blackmore, SW Essex.

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On 5 Oct 2005 00:43:48 -0700, "Tom Bennett" wrote:

There's a fuller version of this story in today's Daily Mail (with the
usual "this-is-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it" Daily Mail spin on
it).

Online article he

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...a_source=&ct=5

And they managed not to mention immigration.

So it's "patchy rain" and not "showery outbreaks" - well that makes it a lot
clearer then.

For once I am in agreement with Bill Giles - just tell it to them straight.

Martin

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 11:26:21 +0100, JPG wrote:

So it's "patchy rain" and not "showery outbreaks" - well that makes it a lot
clearer then


To me, 'patchy rain' and 'showery outbreaks' mean entirely different
things. What the hell do they think they're doing?

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:29:26 +0100, Alan White
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 11:26:21 +0100, JPG wrote:

So it's "patchy rain" and not "showery outbreaks" - well that makes it a lot
clearer then


To me, 'patchy rain' and 'showery outbreaks' mean entirely different
things. What the hell do they think they're doing?


I agree
- patchy rain = weak warm front, uniformly overcast and rain usually light
- showery outbreaks = slow moving convective or Ac Cas, some heavy rain,
some bright or sunny intervals.


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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:43:14 +0100, JPG wrote:

I agree
- patchy rain = weak warm front, uniformly overcast and rain usually light
- showery outbreaks = slow moving convective or Ac Cas, some heavy rain,
some bright or sunny intervals.


Exactly!!!

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Felly sgrifennodd JPG :
- patchy rain = weak warm front, uniformly overcast and rain usually light
- showery outbreaks = slow moving convective or Ac Cas, some heavy rain,
some bright or sunny intervals.


I'm confused. Surely anyone who's lived as long as I have (and I'm only
in my 30's) has seen enough showers to know what a shower is. You don't
need to be an expert. I don't see the need for this change of description
at all.

If the met office don't agree, then, I say it again... educate not
capitulate! The BBC are supposed to be doing this. Maybe if they tried
harder, I'd get a telly and pay them a licence fee.

Adrian

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 11:26:21 +0100, JPG wrote:

So it's "patchy rain" and not "showery outbreaks" - well that makes it a

lot
clearer then


To me, 'patchy rain' and 'showery outbreaks' mean entirely different
things. What the hell do they think they're doing?


its alright Alan -- they are only going to mention what is going on in the
major part of the country so we just won't get any mention at all.
As she said this morning -- if its raining in the nw of Scotland but
everywhere else is fine then the report will be mostly fine - with no
mention of the rest of us

It makes dumbing down look intelligent

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Argyll, Scotland.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4310702.stm

Colin Youngs
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More Pap from the BBC. Yet another reason for sticking to the Internet for
intelligent forecasts. I just wonder sometimes how much more crap are we
expected to put with.:-(
Earlier this year we had the abolition of the synoptic chart which got up my
nose. Its been begrudgingly restored as an afterthought here and there and
now we get this ****.:-(


This is an extract from one of the reports.

"The move could mean that forecasts will predict a "mainly dry" day "instead
of "patchy rain", or say that it will be "warm for most of the day" instead
of "chilly in isolated, coastal areas".

Viewers can also look forward to "a generally clear outlook" instead of
"occasional showers" and "isolated storms".

As well as using less scientific language, forecasters are also being urged
not to "over-dramatise" their broadcasts by focusing on bad weather in
remote areas. They have also been asked not to start a forecast with a bleak
outlook if the majority of the country is expected to be fine".



Well really, note the use of less scientific language. Well I hadn't noticed
any recent terminology that blew ones intellectual socks off so to speak.

Quite frankly why the hell don't the BBC abolish the weather forecast
altogether:-( There isn't much left of it as it is.



Gavin.


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4310702.stm

Colin Youngs
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I've given up on the BBC forecasts completely. They are as much use to me as
a chocolate teapot these days. I seem to get more accuracy from ITV local
ones and national. This is a huge shame: once the Met Office forecasts on
the BBC were something to be proud of, and now they are just cr*p. Huge
shame indeed.




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