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Forecasters are predicting that Britain could be facing one of the coldest
winters in a decade.

Ewen McCallum, chief meteorologist at the Met Office, said the vulnerable and
elderly would be particularly at risk as temperatures fall.

He said it was important to give an "amber alert" to government, fuel firms,
business and the health sector.

But he added the aim was to ensure forward planning, not to scaremonger.

More at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4355946.stm
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Well hats off to them if they are correct,and if they are wrong????

Well of course it will change but first signs of Siberian High building
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Forecasters are predicting that Britain could be facing one of the coldest
winters in a decade.

Ewen McCallum, chief meteorologist at the Met Office, said the vulnerable

and
elderly would be particularly at risk as temperatures fall.

He said it was important to give an "amber alert" to government, fuel

firms,
business and the health sector.

But he added the aim was to ensure forward planning, not to scaremonger.

More at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4355946.stm
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To early to look at charts with highs in those regions, I've seen these
form every year since I can remember. My 'gut' feeling is a winter
comparable to 1969 / 1970 which had some quite severe spells
interspersed with milder intelludes.

What is different this year, compared to the last couple, is I have not
yet seen extreme cold temperatures in northern Scandinavia. Maybe these
are going to arrive later in the winter and then the winds turn in our
direction? Previously, the 'milder' air has returned to these regions
when we look like getting a NE wind. Just an observation. But things to
appear to be different this autumn.

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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:19:36 GMT, "Rupert" wrote:

Well hats off to them if they are correct,and if they are wrong????


If they are wrong, they will be back next year with this same story..
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Forecasters are predicting that Britain could be facing one of the coldest
winters in a decade.

Ewen McCallum, chief meteorologist at the Met Office, said the vulnerable and
elderly would be particularly at risk as temperatures fall.

He said it was important to give an "amber alert" to government, fuel firms,
business and the health sector.

But he added the aim was to ensure forward planning, not to scaremonger.


In his brief timeslot he managed to mention SST's the NAO, the incidence
of westerlies and also a brief discussion of probability. Not in any great
detail of course but it was quite refreshing to see.
Then Sir Ranolph Finnes chipped in by suggesting that the elderly wear
a hat. Well thank you Sir Ranolph.....

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Col wrote:

Then Sir Ranolph Finnes chipped in by suggesting that the elderly wear
a hat. Well thank you Sir Ranolph.....


I was going to make wise crack, but I must show some respect....

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Ranulph Fiennes was born in 1944 and educated at Eton. He served with
the Royal Scots Greys for a time before joining the SAS. In 1968 he
joined the Army of the Sultan of Oman and in 1970 he was awarded the
Sultan's Bravery Medal. Since 1969, when he led the British Expedition
on the White Nile, Ranulph Fiennes has been at the forefront of many
exploratory expeditions. Dubbed the 'World's Greatest Living Explorer'
by the Guinness Book of Records, his expeditions around the world
include Transglobe, the first surface journey made around the world's
polar axis, which took over two years to complete; several unsupported
North Polar Expeditions; and the unassisted crossing of the Antarctic
Continent, which also raised a great deal of money for charity. In 1993
Sir Ranulph Fiennes was awarded an OBE for 'human endeavour and
charitable services'.

Ranulph Fiennes is the author of several books including A Talent for
Trouble, Where Soldiers Fear to Tread, Hell on Ice, To the Ends of the
Earth (written with his wife Virginia), his autobiography: Living
Dangerously and Mind Over Matter: The Epic Crossing of the Antarctic
Continent. His number one bestseller, The Feather Men, is also published
in Signet.
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I can only think he was being sarcastic with the hat remark g

My Wife put me straight about his credentials.
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snip distinguished career

I can only think he was being sarcastic with the hat remark g

My Wife put me straight about his credentials.


Yes, I don't doubt his credentials either!

It just seemed a little incongruous to say the least.

Why was he there? He's an explorer known especially for his polar
expeditions. So he knows what it's like to guard against the cold.
Well yeah, OK as far as it goes but it's not even as if he's an
expert in keeping warming in a domestic British setting.
It's just the association that people will have seeing him there
talking about the coming winter and making the connection that it's
going to be an 'arctic' winter. More sensationalism, in other words.

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In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 19 Oct 2005 at 14:19:36, Rupert wrote :

Well hats off to them if they are correct,and if they are wrong????


Heads off?
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In article , Col
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Then Sir Ranolph Finnes chipped in by suggesting that the elderly wear
a hat. Well thank you Sir Ranolph.....


Yes, very good advice! Any experienced hill walker will tell you "If you
have cold hands or feet, put a hat on."

What part of the body loses heat fastest? The head. Q.E.D.


absolutely true.
A hat of some sort is pretty well essential, keeps the sun off in summer and
the heat in in winter

Jim Webster


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Felly sgrifennodd Malcolm :
No, it won't be the same story as surely the probability of it happening
will have increased!


Maybe that was tongue-in-cheek, but just in case it wasn't, statistically
that argument is wrong. Of course, the press won't understand that.

Say I toss a coin 10 times, and each time it comes up tails. The chance of it
being heads next time is still 1 in 2.

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