Hello all.
I would just like to pose the question on this NG as to why it is perceived
by some as infantile to want snowy cold weather?

Cold snowy winters are the stuff of dreams, childhood memories, magical
times and generally a feeling of snuggling up nice as warm as the snow piles
up outside.

I think it's perfectly reasonable with the shrill mantra of Global Warming
ringing in our ears to long for some weather that somehow throws some doubts
on the doomsday GW scenario. It's a bit like the underdog (cold snow) giving
the favourite (Global Warming) a bloody nose now and again

Why, cold bitter winters are even romanticised in novels, songs, films and
all areas of popular culture.

What's so wrong with wanting a blanket of snow covering the normally grey
dull landscape - and believe me despite the nuances it does get pretty
nondescript and frankly depressing.

Finally what's so bad with getting excited about an event that so rarely
happens. Would you criticise people for getting excited over Haley's Comet
making an appearance and let's face it that's how rare a snow event is
becoming.

So show some tolerance of others that still have that child like wonder at
such rare events and long may it continue.

Tudor and Alan I'm sending you a DVD of the "Snowman" and the "Grinch who
stole Christmas"


Finally I would say merry Christmas to one and all but what would be the
point? My thoughts and wishes will not have one iota of influence on any of
your lives. Okay I'm contradicting myself.

Oh alright then, Merry Christmas to one and all.

Finally what's so bad with getting excited about an event that so rarely
happens? SNIP

Lawrence I agree with you sentiment and I get as excited as anyone about
snow and just as annoyed when it doesn't happen.
The key, to quote you, is * an event that so rarely happens*. The fact is
that is hasn't happened and GFS is not a factual forecast - as we all know.
We are fortunate/unfortunate (delete which is appropriate to you) enough to
have access to information that we could barely have dreamnt of in the 60
and 70's, and this is what now leads to so much conjecture and speculation.
Maybe we would be better off without GFS et al and just let it happen. (This
mornings run looks good though!)
--
David Mitchell, 70m amsl, Langtoft, East Riding of Yorkshire.

Lawrence Jenkins ha scritto:
Hello all.

Hello

I would just like to pose the question on this NG as to why it is perceived
by some as infantile to want snowy cold weather?

There you have raised a valid question.

Cold snowy winters are the stuff of dreams, childhood memories, magical
times and generally a feeling of snuggling up nice as warm as the snow piles
up outside.

And there, you have answered it

I think it's perfectly reasonable with the shrill mantra of Global Warming
ringing in our ears to long for some weather that somehow throws some doubts
on the doomsday GW scenario. It's a bit like the underdog (cold snow) giving
the favourite (Global Warming) a bloody nose now and again

As the two would more probably go hand in hand, the underdog would be
giving the favourite a warm hug of approval, rather than a bloody nose.
I understand that GW equates to more severe weather, not to warmer
weather in general (my understanding may be wrong of course).

Why, cold bitter winters are even romanticised in novels, songs, films and
all areas of popular culture.

This is true. It is also true that creating fantasies (as in writing
fiction) is a way of experiencing something without having to endure it
actually happening. Thus one can read of an arctic winter, then close
the book and return to the warm safety of reality.

What's so wrong with wanting a blanket of snow covering the normally grey
dull landscape - and believe me despite the nuances it does get pretty
nondescript and frankly depressing.

Nothing at all if you have the luxury of staying indoors and looking at
it, rather than having to go out and work in it. It is nice to look at.
Personally, I have never been out in snow when more than two metres had
fallen.

Finally what's so bad with getting excited about an event that so rarely
happens. Would you criticise people for getting excited over Haley's Comet
making an appearance and let's face it that's how rare a snow event is
becoming.

Nothing whatsoever, and not particularly.

So show some tolerance of others that still have that child like wonder at
such rare events and long may it continue.

A child like wonder at the apperance of snow ? I don't think so. It is
just frozen precipitation. I thought I heard a thunder sound here last
week - I am not sure - but it would have been the first instance since
living in this occasion ... now that is a rare event (if it was that).

Tudor and Alan I'm sending you a DVD of the "Snowman" and the "Grinch who
stole Christmas"

Oh how cruel ... have you no good DVDs that feature snow ?

Finally I would say merry Christmas to one and all but what would be the
point? My thoughts and wishes will not have one iota of influence on any of
your lives. Okay I'm contradicting myself.

Oh alright then, Merry Christmas to one and all.

If that is the event you celebrate, then ditto maximus to you, Lawrence (-:


--
Gianna Stefani

Gianna ha scritto:
week - I am not sure - but it would have been the first instance since
living in this occasion ... now that is a rare event (if it was that).


correction:

.... since living in this location ...


sorry, brain and fingers out of synch..


--
Gianna Stefani

He he Merry Christmas Lawrence.

Watch out for my snow reports VBG

COME ON :-)

Will.
--

"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...
Hello all.
I would just like to pose the question on this NG as to why it is perceived
by some as infantile to want snowy cold weather?

Cold snowy winters are the stuff of dreams, childhood memories, magical
times and generally a feeling of snuggling up nice as warm as the snow piles
up outside.

I think it's perfectly reasonable with the shrill mantra of Global Warming
ringing in our ears to long for some weather that somehow throws some doubts
on the doomsday GW scenario. It's a bit like the underdog (cold snow) giving
the favourite (Global Warming) a bloody nose now and again

Why, cold bitter winters are even romanticised in novels, songs, films and
all areas of popular culture.

What's so wrong with wanting a blanket of snow covering the normally grey
dull landscape - and believe me despite the nuances it does get pretty
nondescript and frankly depressing.

Finally what's so bad with getting excited about an event that so rarely
happens. Would you criticise people for getting excited over Haley's Comet
making an appearance and let's face it that's how rare a snow event is
becoming.

So show some tolerance of others that still have that child like wonder at
such rare events and long may it continue.

Tudor and Alan I'm sending you a DVD of the "Snowman" and the "Grinch who
stole Christmas"


Finally I would say merry Christmas to one and all but what would be the
point? My thoughts and wishes will not have one iota of influence on any of
your lives. Okay I'm contradicting myself.

Oh alright then, Merry Christmas to one and all.

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:50:03 +0000 (UTC), "Lawrence Jenkins"
wrote:

Tudor and Alan I'm sending you a DVD of the "Snowman" and the "Grinch who
stole Christmas"

Thanks, Lawrence, you're a real pal.

A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all in usw!

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Loch Goil and Loch Long in Argyll, Scotland.
Web cam and weather:- http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co....her/kabcam.htm
Some walks and treks:- http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/walks/

"David Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Finally what's so bad with getting excited about an event that so rarely
happens? SNIP

Lawrence I agree with you sentiment and I get as excited as anyone about
snow and just as annoyed when it doesn't happen.
The key, to quote you, is * an event that so rarely happens*. The fact is
that is hasn't happened and GFS is not a factual forecast - as we all
know.
We are fortunate/unfortunate (delete which is appropriate to you) enough
to have access to information that we could barely have dreamnt of in the
60 and 70's, and this is what now leads to so much conjecture and
speculation.
Maybe we would be better off without GFS et al and just let it happen.
(This mornings run looks good though!)
--
David Mitchell, 70m amsl, Langtoft, East Riding of Yorkshire.


I know David, but it's so hard to resist a peek, it's an addiction for me
this time of year.
In all seriousness just seeing some of those lovely potentially albeit
fictitious severe set ups, sends me into dreamlike trance. What if, what if?

In article ,
Lawrence Jenkins writes:
Hello all.
I would just like to pose the question on this NG as to why it is perceived
by some as infantile to want snowy cold weather?

Aren't people only saying that it's infantile to kick up a fuss if you
don't get it?

Cold snowy winters are the stuff of dreams, childhood memories, magical
times and generally a feeling of snuggling up nice as warm as the snow piles
up outside.

I think it's perfectly reasonable with the shrill mantra of Global Warming
ringing in our ears to long for some weather that somehow throws some doubts
on the doomsday GW scenario. It's a bit like the underdog (cold snow) giving
the favourite (Global Warming) a bloody nose now and again

Why, cold bitter winters are even romanticised in novels, songs, films and
all areas of popular culture.

Never more memorably than by RD Blackmore in "Lorna Doone", who had the
winter of 1683-4 on Exmoor to write about: "All the earth was flat with
snow, all the air was thick with snow; more than this no man could see,
for all the world was snowing."

snip

Finally I would say merry Christmas to one and all but what would be the
point? My thoughts and wishes will not have one iota of influence on any of
your lives. Okay I'm contradicting myself.

Oh alright then, Merry Christmas to one and all.


Merry Christmas, Lawrence; Merry Christmas everyone.
--
John Hall

"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)

Cold winter romanticised in novels, songs, films, and cards are part of
the problem.

Unrealistic...causing people to wish it to happen even more

Marketing hype for this time of year starts in August, when people are
still on their summer holidays.
Most people feel 'anti-climax' by around Jan 2nd, or for some Dec 26th

People seem to be wishing that the weather above their heads is somehow
compassionate, or listening in some way. That because some of those
people down there are wishing for cold & snowy weather... that the
weather had better respond and deliver. Or are some people silly enough
to think they can make it happen, by wishing it.
C'mon... this is a child's world we are describing here.
Some adults still want to hold onto those child-like belief systems as
they get older.
It's a simple fact: The atmosphere and what occurs in it, does not
pander to feeble human emotions. Too bad, it has to be pointed out

Christmas
It's the most over-hyped event of the year. And also used by some to
preach religious beliefs

People never learn from past mistakes. they STILL get over-excited by
long range charts if it shows a cold setup. If those long range charts
show a mild setup... then they respond with "but it's too far out to
worry about" - but they will never say that, if it indicates cold
Can they not see their own bias?

Me? Scrooge? Believe it or not, i do have an appetite for wonder.
It's called Science. And there is still much to discover.

Happy Yuletide

Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
Hello all.
I would just like to pose the question on this NG as to why it is perceived
by some as infantile to want snowy cold weather?


a. People die, both directly (hypothermia) and indirectly (increased
road accidents, influenza etc) as a result of cold weather.
3. It causes a large increase in fuel usage - leading to increased CO2
output.
d. It causes a reduction in the amount I can go out on my bike.

So There.



--
Chris
http://www.ivy-house.net
Swaffham, Norfolk